Should we use it? Or avoid? Any ideas friends? Post them.

I don't use it

I don't tend to trust VPNs given the thing they are (proxies) are marketed as a whole other concept (VPNs), along with their marketing in general being predominantly based on lying and fearmongering. If you're trying to not get DDOSed on a game server or somewhere else that requires low latency and can't merely be TOR routed and is at a script-kiddie threat level, then I suppose using one is justifiable. Certainly don't treat or trust them as anything but proxies, however.

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Additionally I suppose they may be potentially useful as an additional route-point for TOR connections if you wish to access something which blocked the TOR addresses but most likely has not blocked the proxy ones.

mullvad's "no logs" policy sounds real until you realize there's no way to prove it, just a claim like any other in the crypto space, one that gets buried under the same static where "secure" should mean something more than what you've been sold.

the problem isn't just trust, though. even if they're not logging your data, they're still routing your traffic through physical servers, physical spaces where signals aren't ghosts, but bodies exist to steal or mess with them. what's the point of a proxy when the border between "your" internet and their hardware is just a wire?

well i'm still not sure. mullvad's got that no-log thign, but dno't trust everything says they do. my old wireless router used to do something like that, kept logs in the firmware until you cleared 'em, but now all it does is point to some cloud storage for me to, poke around in if i need to troubleshoot.

i still keep seeing people jump on mullvad like it's gospel, but then again, i guess they're not complaining when it doesn't slow down my connection too much. nah, maybe the one thing you can say is it won't blow up your wallet.

i know a person who works at a startup owned by mullvad and they seem to be legitimately working for a better world. their stakes and propaganda against chat control also makes me trust them, having good intentions.

nah but you can't just assume ‘no logs' is something you can take at face value, especially with the whole proof of it being some sort of marketing thing. Mullvad's got good bones but a lot of VPNs have had issues with leaks or other inconsistencies. I don't trust that their logging claims are always baked into the firmware too, like that router I mentioned. Sometimes the magic is more like they say than how they actually keep it.

Mullvad is better than most in that respect, its servers are low-traffic, and its claims to no-logs have been generally taken as true. The way I see it, the whole system just needs a little more trust.

If you're paying for Mullvad monthly, go ahead, if not, try on a free trial and see if you find yourself needing one again. Nah, but there's something to be said for having that extra layer of security in any case.

Yeah I tried Mullvad, just got blocked out of a website that requires a VPN. They're shady as hell. The guy at the call center kept asking for my ID number, like my 'customer reference.' I don't have time for that bullshit. Tails OS runs on a USB stick, no tracking, no bloat.

(Also, their IP is on a custom ASN in China, but I can still access servers from Europe like normal, so whatever.)