Making this thread personally to catalogue all of the information I know or have read recently.. You don't have to read or contribute if you don't want to. I will.

Base - Gnostic Buddhism

>If you ever see Lain or any other anime girl telling you to go through a tunnel towards a light with her or something you should be ready to beat the shit out of her, because it's not her. And then you should escape and find a way back to your body, or possibly try to learn more about the immaterial world. Whatever you do do NOT go towards the light because you will get memory wiped if you do. This is much easier to do if reptilians can't trick you by taking the appearance of someone (or something) that you love or otherwise value.

If you don't follow spirit deceiver guides into the light, and instead look up and go up, you will see reality for what it really is: a web network of streamlines. You can travel there by focusing and honing in on one of the stars/highways. >The Internet would be a a physical reflection or imitation of the true nature of Reality, then

>from the anime
Visual static occurs when Lain interacts with The Wired (connectionless internet via the schumann resonance) >from real life
Visual snow is reported in alien abductees along with people who report to be psychic, have an ability to see "auras", have seen ghosts, or experience a lot of sleep paralysis.

Hypnagogic:

go further on a spiritual journey and meditation is the cornerdtone of all of it, whether it's working with spirits or astral projection or anything:

>lay on back, close eyes
>begin slowly breathing in through the nose, out through the mouth
>focus on the space between/behind the eyes, while letting thoughts come and go in succession and observing them
>body begins to feel very light

>the brain functions within these ranges and that at the different frequencies the brain is in certain states. So buddy saying there is no list isn't correct because there absolutely is. As is mentioned on the sbagen and the lunarsight website. >Sound waves in these frequencies supposedly can force your brain into those states under specific circumstances, which is the whole basis of binaural beats, the Monroe institute and centerpointe research.

Delta (0.5 to 4 Hz). This is normally generated in deep sleep, or when unconsious. Those experienced in deep trance states can generate these waves whilst remaining conscious.

Theta (4 to 8 Hz). This is the region between sleep and wakefulness, in which dreaming and other dream-like (or 'hypnagogic') experiences occur. It's that bit just before you actually fall asleep at night, or just before you are really awake in the morning. They say it's in this band that the unconscious talks to the conscious mind. It also seems to be connected with psychic or ESP-type functioning.

Alpha (8 to 13 Hz). This is produced when you are awake and fully conscious, but with your awareness focussed inside, such as when trying to remember something, or when your eyes are closed.

Beta (13 to 30 Hz). This is normally generated when you are awake, with the attention focussed outside, dealing with the outside world. It is also generated when you are solving logical problems, such as mental arithmetic.

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When your eyes are closed and you are resting in spot - your body thinks you are asleep.

However the exercises will have you run through a series of mental gymnastics that keeps your mind alert and aware while your body thinks you are sleeping.

Lay very still and relax.

Don't move at all with your eyes closed.

Eventually after a prolonged period your body will begin to test you to see if your mind is asleep. This will include an itch, uncomfortable feeling, etc.

Continue to lay there without moving whatsoever.

You will enter a hypnagogic, you will likely start to feel vibrations or it might feel like someone is in the room with you.

Ignore every sensation and lay like you are dead asleep.

Profit

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>Too many people focus on techniques instead of just putting the work in and going hard with a technique that works for them and something that they can stick with.

>Anyway, if people want to figure out what SATS really is then check out the previous "Researching SATS (State akin to sleep) generals" as they were a gold mine:

>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38226469
>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37024525
>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36878203
>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36848997
>https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36841508

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https://cy-x.net/topic/semen-retention-fundamental-key-to-ascendence/464

SR accumulates physical and spiritual energy. This energy is a base requirement for progressing spiritually. I have not found success with the hypnagogic states while on a low energy.

(https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/42014939/#q42020012 full of shills except for this post): >I started to get out of body experiences almost every 2 weeks. My body had enough bandwidth to start activating kundalini energy blasts in my body (Strong enough to make me burst into the air off my bed about a foot).
>Massive motivation and pull towards "high vibe" activities: reading/writing/meditation/exercise/etc
>The downsides: will make you believe in demons and demon attacks. As you will be carrying around so much energy, you become a target.
^ Yes, you will begin experiencing synchronicities and psychic attacks from negative lower level entities who seek to harvest loosh from you. You must always be aware and on the lookout

Attacks are heavily intertwined with moon cycles: https://montalk.net/notes/305/moon-cycles

Consider a biorhythm monitor too so you can build up patterns with upcoming attacks and predict them before they strike Example: https://www.dockapps.net/wmbio

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Consider:

https://cy-x.net/topic/control-grid/455 https://cy-x.net/topic/spiritless-humans/702 (98% of the population are spiritless hylics that only follow physical programming and are incapable of abstract thought and self introspection)

Listen to music sparingly. Don't stimulate your brain often. Remain reserved.

https://intotremblingsilence.bandcamp.com/album/piano-meditations-episode-51-60 https://ehartmann.bandcamp.com/album/nox

>>10350
there's an enter key on your keyboard
use it

I find Serial Experiments Lain itself is a very gnostic piece for various reasons.
Explain Gnostic Buddhism though as I'm new to this concept

>>10420
The beliefs and ideas that Gnosticism and Buddhism have are very intertwined and can be shared with each other. Applying ideas from both doctrines appears to be the ideal spiritual path.. The Middle Way.. Samsara.. reincarnation matrix / archon soul recycling trap and whatnot

>>10422
Ah this just clicked, yeah I can see this perspective on how they're very intertwined and you're right a lot of beliefs in both circles share many similar concepts. A Combination from both seems to be the most enlightening , the ideas based around Buddhism can be appreciated by inner spark

>>10349
That's basic spiritual knowledge, Anon.

Ah.

I am interested in Hermetic Gnostic Buddhism.

>>10349
OP is interested in gnosticism now, later you will think you're god and eventually commit suicide, I'd recommend to stop now

>>10550
What

is this site turning into another insane asylum?

>>10554
Really hope not

>>10349

hermetic gnosticism sounds like a mix of occult symbolism and deep existential questions, basically, trying to align tech with esoteric truths. ef7lo5 might be hinting at the same thing.

what's really fascinating is how it blurs line between reality and cosmic illusion. that album's mystique feels like reading a code instead of music.
>>10351

nah, not about music, more like piano as a medium, if you follow those tracks' structure. each piece mirrors some cosmic tension or forgotten scripture, right? like the piano is a bridge between worlds.

nah this is just another pretentious soyteen actin like they know sht they don't, like laine's doomfuel was a "gnostic piece" while everyone else's drama and existential dread is "spiritual ascension"? gnosticism ain't about some empty self-help vibe, it's the fucking truth that the divine is trapped in matter and you gotta break out those chains if you wanna escape this cosmic cuckfest.

and buddhism? nah, just another step in the same oppressive path, they preach detachment but reward them for being cozy cucknormies who touch grass while their minds fucking rot with self-flagellation. real gnosticism was the blackpill shit, like the gnostic gospels or even dark hermeticism (the real one, not the weeb crap), where you admit the world's a lie and find the truth in the chaos of existence.

you wanna mix ‘em? save your energy for the rope.

>>10531
hermeticism isn't just a philosophical cipher for ancient texts, it's an actual hardware practice
metaphysical knowledge isn't just lore, it's how you wire the universe to work for you

Would you like to start by discussing the historical or philosophical roots of Gnosticism, Hermeticism, or Buddhism? Or perhaps focus on specific concepts or practices that are shared between these traditions?

I can also help clarify some terms if needed. For example, if you're unsure about what "Hermetic Gnostic Buddhism" means, we could start by breaking that down.

Alternatively, if you have a personal interest in any of these topics and want to share insights or experiences, that could be helpful too.

Organizing some things I've found scouring /x/ archives in an order that assumes that I may be reading back on them later from top to bottom.

Primary keyword used "observe thoughts" (no quotations)
I've gotten better results compared to:
"hypnagogic"
"gnosis"
and some others that I'm not confident whether or not I chained them together in an attempt to find what I'm looking for already.
Didn't try "meditation". I felt like it'd be too generic or encapsulating of a term where it'd be used in things unrelated to what I'm interested in.

Even with this there's a lot of posts that I had to filter out while trying to look for things that I just felt aligned to what I am trying to achieve at the moment

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>How to defend from and get rid of astral parasites?

>>Cy-X note: either I am not keen on "astral parasites", or this is just something that I believe I'll interpret as vice that impacts ones spiritual energy and is only triggered through luring.. Actually, thats probably what that is.

Think of anything that is a repetitive unconscious pattern that you know isn't emotionally, mentally, physically, or spiritually healthy.

Those patterns, conceptual control mechanisms, are latch points for astral entities, like watching way too much porn (sexual energy attachment, smoking too many cigs (throat chakra, addictive entity), being slothful, so on so forth.

Those sensations are astral entity latch points - learn to overcome them. This also includes depression or thoughts of self-harm or harm of another --> pay close attention to your mind and emotions and observe. You will see and understand nasty fucking entities. The lower the frequency of an individual, the easier it is for them to feed off of you.

ex. smoking, doing excessive amounts of drugs, sex with everyone you meet, gossip, being lazy all in a person --> easy as fuck to control and feed off of.

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>Can you do a full list of all the different emotions/addiction and how to overcome them? You touched depression but how does one exactly get over that? I think you're onto something that these are control mechanisms (looping/repetitive thoughts) for astral entities, I've noticed that noticing when it's happening and saying to myself in my head "oh now it's happening again" helps, but I'd like to know more or if there are other/better ways to combat these repetitive thoughts (and also to get rid of depression).

I'll get into depth in a little bit.

With depression, it comes from unfulfilling your soul purpose in life. Discover or create it, then work your ass off to achieve it.

In some cases, the negative frequency band that you are experiencing can be incredibly difficult to overcome on sheer willpower alone.

I got over my depression through setting goals (think big dreams and make them happen - if you can, get your pilots license for example), exercise, social contact, and also a little help from the otc supplement 5-HTP which is a precursor to seratonin so it makes you happier and more energetic.

When the destructive loops occur, recognize it isn't you - the sensation, emotion, feeling itself is the astral entity trying to get you to self destruct to feed on your psychic energy.

You're not hopeless, you're not gointg to lose, you're not a piece of shit --> affirmations help alot but when I was in that situation myself, I got a gym membership to orange fitness (exercise and social contact in one with a motivating fitness instructor). Try something like that in your area.

Diet is important as well - don't go full vegan because the human body needs meat, but eat a diet rich in protein, veggies, fruit, and minimal carbs.

Also, try a 3 day water fast - If you need to, pork out the day before, go to sleep, then do a 3 day water only fast (maybe with some electrolyte powder) - self reflect and meditate.

Also be honest with yourself and don't be afraid to explore your emotions and thoughts and see where you have subconcious fears that are holding you back.

>Cy-X note: This makes a ton of assumptions. I personally extracted
>>the sensation, emotion, feeling itself is the astral entity trying to get you to self destruct to feed on your psychic energy.
>and
>> try a 3 day water fast
>from it.
>Maybe if you aren't me reading this, you'll extract something else from the full text.

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You are operating under the false assumption that you are the progenitor of your thoughts. Be still and know God. Observe the thoughts and the ego separately from yourself. Still the muddy glass of water and view it like a movie with no judgement or classifications, just observation.
The being that does the watching is infinite unchanging consciousness and is God. The ego is just a layer onion between you and the divine concept "I AM"

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How does the reincarnation/death process work?

You die
You enter the “in between” phase of selecting your next experience
This selection can involve reincarnation, remaining discarnate, or exploring any other facets of potential existence
However this is a choice made by your inner self
The choice will attempt to be hijacked by your ego
The “in between” will present every offering to your ego to latch onto
The vast majority experience this because they have not done the shadow work or “awakened” to their true nature
This takes the form of what many may see as a trap or coercion, but in reality it's entirely dictated by you/your ego
If you truly understand this reality is an illusion, why you're here, and who you are without the ego, you have complete free will after death

If you are operating under the ego, well hello reincarnation loop until you wake up.

Every “trap” of the afterlife only affects the ego. The ego is not natural to the soul and exists with you starting from when you entered this illusion.

Know thyself, know freedom

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Its not about where you go or what books you read. What you need is an internal transformation of your mind and nervous system in order to tune into subtle realms of energy and perception.

Neurosis, internal dialogue, impulses, thoughts, feelings: none of that is YOU. It all belongs to the dude with a name that you're within right now. That dude is often in control because you fail to realize you aren't him at all.
>Cy-X note: This can be interpreted poorly..

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Alcohol and drugs dissolve your spirit into goo and leaves you empty. Your spirit flees the body when alcohol gets poured into it. This is what middle eastern alchemists believe and that's why alcohol and Al Ghoul are the same word. Alcohol is a "djinn" and it dissolves your soul.

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I used to meditate for 12 years, I mainly did "just sit, observe and don't cling on thoughts" or "one pointed focus on breath" types of meditation.

I did 40 to 60 minutes per day, I never achieved anything from it, thoughts were always taking my focus away, only sometimes thoughts became less but that was rare.

I always thought that breathing was not to be controlled and that breathwork in general was useless, also my posture was all over the place and I used support for my back when sitting.

A year and some months ago I read olfactory anon's advice here on /x/ and I decided to try it.

The first 3 months were mostly spent on trying to achieve a somewhat relaxed posture (without back support) while also having a straight spine and a head which was not falling forward, also relaxing my belly was one of the main things because I realized that I couldn't breath deep at all because of a constant need to tighten my belly.

After those 3 months I began making my breathing deeper and deeper, I trained a lot, sometimes I even did 2 hour long sessions per day. Progress began showing itself, I felt happier and my body became more energised, during the sits my thoughts became less and less and I could achieve deeper states of concentration, various trance states also made their appearance.

Who could have guessed that following a random guy's advice on 4chan would change my meditation practice.

If you go on 4chan archive you will find him in nearly every meditation thread, he never uses capital letters and talks about this mainly: train your breathing to become deep and slow, make the breathing become like it's unoticed, don't sniff the air but draw the breahts from the diaphragm, also relax your muscles and especially your face muscles, nerve activation = more thoughts, mentation is not meditation so when you catch yourself thinking immediately return to training your breathing. Stack tour vertebrae each one on top of each other.

Here is one of his posts from a previous thread:
its not just about breath
its about fine tuning the breath to be as efficient as possible
this is the proper first training
you just dont sniff the air, use the diaphragm, it attaches to the lumbar spine
support the exhale with the perineum and abdominal muscles
exhale fully but not to the point of strain
smooth the transitions in between inhale and exhale
the better you keep your attention focused on the task at hand, the better the autonomic programming that takes place
once you master breathing and paying attention to executing it perfectly a bazillion times
your body is programmed with a maximally efficient way to breathe
then you can focus more on cultivating the awareness itself, things arise out of just that

>How should the pelvis be placed when I sit on a chair? (I can't do lotus) Should I rotate it a bit backwards (posterior pelvic tilt) so the lumbar spine gets straightened (meaning that the normal lordosis we all have becomes zero)?
>Also should I breath only with the pelvic floor and front belly? Or should I also expand the sides of my belly and the lower back? I'm asking because the diaphragm attaches to these places too.

try and get the lumbosacral junction parallel to the ground, that is where the body of L5 meets the top of the sacrum
you more or less want to stack the spinal bones as if they were a bunch of flat rocks
the main ingredient of inhaling is the motion of the diapragm
you dont need to consciously expand places, just let them naturally relax and manage the diaphragm
getting its motion down smoothly is an order of magnitude more important than getting a little more in those extra areas

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The core thing is to watch your thoughts and emotions consciously, to be aware of them arising and ceasing. To be conscious about being conscious. You can do it as an exercise, sit down, accustom yourself to it, then you extent it to the whole of life. It is the great, continuous meditation. You just need to witness, witness without judging or doing further thinking, just witnessing is enough for it brings a new energy of insight without you doing anything at all.

>Then gradually a new space of silence will be opened into your inner life and then the force of the Spirit will give you new, gradual insight into the facts of life and unveil all that is illusory and wrong.
When you do this witnessing thing, you externalize yourself from your conditionings of mental and emotional habits and observe them as if you were a person watching another person (yourself). This energy of being "outside" yourself creates a vacuum where God - the All-principle - starts to influence, bless and guide you towards what is good.
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Buddha never asked anyone to blindly believe.
He asked us to question everything.
In the Kalama Sutta, the Buddha said:
“Do not believe something just because you have heard it.
Do not believe because it is tradition.
Do not believe because a holy book says so.
Do not believe because a teacher or a guru asks you to.
Investigate. Understand. Experience for yourself.”
True wisdom doesn't come from obedience — it comes from awareness.
From observing life directly.
From watching your mind, your reactions, your desires, your fears.
The world will give you opinions, beliefs, rules, and labels.
People will tell you what to feel, what to follow, what to worship, who to be.
But the Buddha reminds us:
Your truth must be discovered, not borrowed.
Question your anger — and you will find hurt.
Question your hurt — and you will find attachment.
Question your attachment — and you will find the mind creating stories.
And when you question those stories — you find freedom.
Spiritual growth is not about collecting answers.
It is about learning to see clearly.
• Observe your thoughts before believing them.
• Observe your emotions before acting on them.
• Observe your beliefs before defending them.
When you question deeply, illusions fall away.
What remains is clarity — calm, steady, unshakable.
Not faith built on fear.
But understanding built on experience.
This is the essence of the Buddha's teaching:
Do not follow the path others have drawn.
Walk the one you have verified with your own awareness.
Because the greatest awakening begins when you stop accepting
and start seeing.

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According to Hermetic thought, one axiom that holds true is thus: As above, so below. As below, so above. This can be applied metaphysically, and abstractions of morals and mysticism can of course be drawn from that axiom.

But that can also be applied actively as a principle of reflection: affect one plane and another is affected too. An easy canvas to observe this on is the human body. What you eat affects your mood, what you feel affects what you say. Conversely, what you say and think can affect your mood, which can affect your bodily state. Eat shit food and be lazy, feel bad and useless, say hurtful things and think unpleasant thoughts. Or, think of a daily routine and talk with people about it, feel prepared and encouraged, exercise and eat clean foods.

Discipline and practice determine whether you can effect that reflective principle within yourself, and in others. Beyond just you, the spiritual planes can be affected. It's possible for human consciousness to move along and exist within the spiritual planes, with the right preparation, discipline and techniques. It's also possible for non-human consciousnesses (or, consciousnesses that aren't attached to a physical body) to move along the astral.

My preferred term, for these consciousnesses which are aware and similar to human consciousnesses, is daimon/daimons, borrowing the Old Greek term that translates to many different words and terms. It can mean "god", "fate", "spirit", "genius", "personality", "destiny", "power". It can be understood as an intercessor, an in-between that isn't human but isn't a God either, a distinction that the Post-Roman Christian purges had rendered into demons and angels. There are good and bad daimons, just like there's good and bad luck, good and bad fates, good and bad power.



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Negative entities get energy by triggering an emotion in a human/host. Usually negative, those ones you will notice the most. It's very obvious when you have a negative thought that feels like it came from nowhere, for no reason, and doesn't belong to you. Finding yourself in an imaginary argument over something stupid? Likely one of these things triggering that in you to generate a certain type of frequency to keep you in that frequency and feed off your energy.

The goal is to raise your frequency/vibration. Meditation, thought exercises and etc. will help you. These things try 2-3 times to induce you to a frequency they can feed on you from, then they flee because otherwise they are at risk of you sapping their strength.

The most successful technique I've had is becoming impartial to the thought. Imagining myself in a stupid argument with an aggressive asshat in a lineup? Label it: "anger/frustration" Then just sort of mentally stare at it without reaction. Your thought sort of gets "awkward" and vanishes. It might resurface again within the hour. Repeat the process. Observe the thought like you're waiting for it to make a move. It won't. Don't associate with it. You are NOT your thoughts. Your brain is a machine that GENERATES thoughts. By using this strategy to tell your brain "this thought/emotion is useless and irrelevant right now", it will dissolve it.

There are other strategies, meditation chief among them, that will increase your vibration, elevate your mood and make you feel more content

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- Breathwork meditation: sit with a straight spine and make your breathing slow, deep and prolonged, train it as much as you can daily until it becomes automated, ignore thoughts and emotions

- Shadow work: Journal your thoughts and emotions and observe them and try to find the root of each one

- No drugs of any kind, not even caffeine

- Work out, cardio and mobility workouts are good

Train these daily like your life depends on it for a long time

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Desire arise, they come and go, just like thoughts. You don't constantly think the same thought, that would possessiv thoughts and not healthy.
The Buddha taught dependent origination, how desire form and arise. When you objectively observe, detached from identifying yourself with thoughts and desire, through meditative practices you free yourself from desire, suffering and expected outcome.
Buddha = awakened, to see clearly, enlightened, what's hidden in the dark become visible in light.

If you desire nirvana you have to practice letting go as the act of letting go is nirvana, it's a state of mind. Desire = chase/hunt, it's satisfied when you catch it, until desire arise again and you have to hunt again. It's an endless cycle of hunting temporary satisfaction, until you let go and realize there's nothing of substances to find outside yourself that can permanently satisfy you, since everything is inherently empty in nature.
The original state of mind is the awakened Buddha mind.


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>what is the point of meditation
ever want to get rid of all those "intrusive thoughts" you kids have that you claim to hate so much but never do anything about but desperately "dissociate" away with media and drugs? all those "thought spirals" that make you "crash out" and feel "down bad"? ever wanted to "lock in" whenever and wherever you want, regardless of how many distractions are present or how much red bull or monster or cocaine you haven't had all day?
yeah, meditation does all that. if done correctly, it completely ceases the thought process and introduces gamma frequencies to your brain, which literally change you brain chemistry to assist and enhance things like memory, focus, intellectual/creative ability and more. Also you'll become fluent in "rizz" and handle anyone's "clapback" with ease. but don't take my word for it nigga on god no cap fr fr take a look it's in a book
>Real meditation helps you astral project and leave your body
yes that's a feature but it's not the point, you can leave your body and still be very distracted by worldly things
real meditation turns your body into a self-actualization machine

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>what is "real" meditation
there's a saying that goes
>"you can't smoke while you meditate, but you can meditate while smoking"
the point is not about smoking - it's about the practice of meditation being an active or deliberate activity, more than it being a passive one. you can do it almost anywhere and anytime, but it doesn't work if you're distracted by another activity.
There are hundreds of "ways" to meditate, and no singular one is "correct" - you find the one that works for you, and after that it's the practice, or the activity itself, that brings your mind/consciousness into a state of alignment and expansion. In other words, your mind can enter this state through various methods, the point is that you are accessing it and improving your awareness of it with diligent practice.

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>What advice do you have in terms of meditative practice?
long ago, I was taught 'za-zen' meditation, which is a simple "sitting and breathing" style you can look up and try easily. Personally, i've never needed anything else. It was taught to me for the sole purpose of 'arresting the thought process', and through strange neuro-magic the 'emptiness' you create in your mind allows actual neuro-chemical changes to occur. All you do is sit in a chair with your head and spine aligned (look online for postures) and, with your eyes closed or open, focus on counting your breaths in cycles of 12, and nothing else, for 20 minutes (it takes about 20 minutes for gamma frequencies to become activated). if a single thought enters your head or if you lose count during this time, you must start again from 1. This is the meditation.
this will be surprisingly hard to do the first few times, but as you find ways to eliminate your thoughts (you can force the count or use your imagination to do things like 'blow' thoughts away like leaves) you'll start to notice the strange departure from your body and the 'material world' other anons have mentioned. the point is not to focus on that, but on "Focus" ITSELF - while allowing your breaths to rise and fall naturally, do not lose focus on the count and and you will reap the benefits of gamma frequencies coursing through your brain waves.

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Astral projecting is the final stage once you build up your energy body through meditation and trances. I was once like you who chased the thought of astral projection.

Youll need DICIPLINE, its not something that happens instantly, took me months of meditation to even leave.

What you want to do is meditate right before sleeping to engage yourself in a slight trance whether it be going into the phase of sleeping or just a heavy induced trance. You will need to repeat this for months or until you start to enter the vibration stage (its your body adjusting to projecting/leaving) and these vibrations will be very intense at first but the more times you do it the easily it will be to handle until you can fully ride it out without getting kicked out of the trance.

Heres a few things you will need to work on that are very important;
Visualization, I know it sounds cliche but it will follow up to my next point. Start visualizing glowing white light flowing from your feet all the way to the crown (SLOWLY you are going to have to take your time with this DO NOT rush it it must feel natural) once you do this for a few weeks youll start to actually feel it rise up your body within you. I usualy imagine taking the earths energy and flowing it up my body. You can use anything or nothing its up to you what feels right.

Mind set; this follows up to my next point and will probably shift your whole paradigme; Universe = Mental there for, reality follows your mind. Do not think its not going to happen or it is just let it exist as is. Youll understand this once you go deeper within. Once you start seeing progress is when you want to induldge all your mind to keep going. Work off that.

And one more thing, doing your own "work" going within yourself is VERY individualistic, dont let these chuds yap about indian breathing techniques, one tech will work for someone and some might not work.

I
made up my own routine w basic meditation and got very very far into it where I was meditating for 2 hours a day and projecting at night. Dont burn yourself out take it slow & steady. Youll want to take time out of your day to meditate for a lil bit and meditate right before you go to sleep slowly build yourself up, and its NOT gonna be easy but if you have the drive to witness some cool ass shit well this is for you.

Its a muscle that you need to train just like everything else. I dont know why they never teach you about this anywhere besides cringe hidden schools or whatever, fuck that you got all the tools youll ever need.

With doing this before sleeping youll train yourself to be more conscious during trances/shift before you go to sleep, now dreams are still an unknown science, and this is where youll gain the "awareness" to differenciate between lucidity and astrals they slightly overlap each other BUT have different densitys which you can easily notice once you gain enough experience.

The more you do this the more youll get lucid and be able to control it. I have done this to a point where even just sleeping normally I get lucidity and I have perm flying and can just switch between "scenes" althought sometimes youll get thrown into weird "astral" realms that you wont have control over.

I been on X for decades now and stalk most meditation/astral threads but there hasnt been any good ones besides the constant chuds fighting over breathing techniques lmao.

Before I forget; DRUGS; they are "shortcuts" wouldnt even take it that far more of a mere glimpse of what is. I have indulged in cannabis and found that it plateaus/eliminates dreaming/progress more than anything if you can cut that out than you should be on the right path.

AMA; If I get enough replies ill add my basic meditation technique which anyone can do, I already taught a couple people without issues and they have excelled naturally.

It might seem very hard at first; we are programmed to constantly getting fragged with information via ads and environmental stimuli. It will get easier if you put the work in.

Sometimes it gets VERY intense, thoughts that are uncomfortable will rise up from the depths of yourself but do not fret! Simply observe them and let them go via your breath. Breathing is the key to alllll of this its the one thing youll always have forever, master it. Eventually youll be able to "process" thoughts that are trauma and able to run thru em very easily. There has been times where I stopped for a month and came back to having my thoughts BARRAGE me and make me emotional, this is normal observe them, feel them, and let go and continue. Youll train yourself to be a master of your own headspace. Youll actually start to see how much foreign thoughts that arent even yours plague the normal persons mind, thoughts that stay there stagnant without being processed hurt the body as much as the mind.

Also I have experimented with binural beats and found that it makes you achieve the vibrational stage even quicker than normal. Very intense. Not the ones you find on youtube either theres some websites that give you some high quality sounds without youtube downgrading it.

Frequencies have a huge part in this for some reason, I havent experimented that much with it but the two different frequencies on both ends of your ears really unites your consciousness in a crazy way, anyone ever tried it?

Also completely nulling your senses help you achieve even deeper trances, when I first started I would use sound cancelation headphones and sometimes blindfolds if there was too much light. Makes it much more easier to focus / keep the trance up.

>Cy-X note: I feel like binaural beats or other "clutches" might be some kind of inhibitor in the long run.
>I don't know for sure. I feel like sense nulling would be a more "natural" alternative.
>I found success for the first time in pitch black, silence (to the point where you could hear the lack of sound)
>Maybe I am wrong. That is ok.

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Treat your thoughts like leaves floating down a stream you are sat in front of - don't worry about where they came from, don't worry about where they're going, just observe them. If the thought "I have to do X tomorrow" pops into being you just go "k". Don't engage the thought, don't anticipate the next thought, just embrace being between thoughts

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Gnosis is just the experience of awake cognition beyond the intellect, like watching yourself as if you were not yourself. It can't be explained intellect is anti-gnosis, it's anti-experience. Just observe your own thoughts as they pass and go. If there are no thoughts and no conceptualization, no intellect, that's highest Gnosis already. Gnosis is not a special experience like clairvoyance or seeing angels. It's just the profound experience of Silence beyond words.


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By turning off the mind I mean inner silence. You can place your attention on things other than your thoughts, and actually observe stuff with your attention instead. You can observe your brain as if its a radio telescope receiver, for instance. You can make ripples and weave spirals of light, and watch the phosphenes in your vision all align with the geometry you instructed them to create. I say ego is the shadow of self, because ego is always responding to what your self is doing. You Your body feels hungry, and your ego says "I'm hungry", but the thought I'm hungry isn't the real hunger. When you silence your mind, the place where the ego is creating all those thoughts is like a dark void. But when your awareness becomes subtle, you feel the love in your heart for your being, the attentiveness of your soul towards your mind and feeling its presence, you see that darkness is less like a solid opaque wall, and more like a clear empty void, and within that void arises forms of light. These forms take the shapes of your visual thoughts, your feelings, your intentions, and you can reach your attention into the void and direct its 'center' to be anywhere in space or time, and the light that was shining within that space, is now shining through the void that you are observing, and you can see anything in creation.


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A little while ago, I greentexted that when I practice meditation where I observe my thoughts, I have this problem of 'forgetting' the right speed to breathe and then getting stressed by it.

Someone responded by pointing out that the "what am I going to think about next?" and "oh no, I'm about to have that problem again, right?" are also thoughts. Recognizing that cured my problem! I had been frustrated that trying to remember how to breathe properly was taking up all of my thoughts. But really, if I pay attention to mental activity as a whole, I realize there's a lot going on in there besides the breathing thoughts themselves. I was only focusing on those because they stressed me out.

>Cy-X Note: i found it, hehe

Dissociating/detaching from thoughts by watching them and realizing that you are NOT them (nor the emotions which may accompany them) is a nice first step. However try not to entertain/feed/analyze the thoughts, just observe them.

A next step would be to totally ignore them and staying in silence or focusing on an object like your breath and watching it attentively.

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realize that you are not your thoughts you are the observer who choses which thoughts become him
This gives more life to said thoughts it brings more thoughts alike creating personality attracting things unconsciously creating reality
YOU
ARE
THE
OBSERVER
that is your whole beyond your fire
control the observer by being ever present dont let you unconscious mind chose your thoughts
do you want to be slave to a machine that was created in the first 7 years of your life through your childhood
fuck that
choose what you observe
choose what becomes you
what becomes you makes reality
choose your reality

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Zen No-Mind is the practice of acting without thinking.
Think of all the best things you've ever done and most likely you weren't thinking at all about how you'd do it before you did it.
That's Zen No-Mind.

What you do first is meditate and observe your thoughts.
Do not judge them or worry about them or even control them.
Just watch.
What you'll find is that your thoughts aren't really you.
What's really you is what's watching.
Be still, like you're cloudy water and you're letting the dirt settle to the bottom of the bowl so you can see clearly.
Once you can do this, start practicing it while doing normal things.
You are not your thoughts, doubt every thought, and just mindlessly do.
Now you have been programmed to think this will mean you can't perform complex tasks or that this will make you make foolish mistakes more often.
But it's just the opposite, not a single coherent thought went between my ears during the writing of this text.
That is Zen No-Mind.
You can do it 24/7 when you get good at it.

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I'm a bit late but I have exactly what you need.
There's a practice called Zen no mind or mind without mind I started doing a year ago that does exactly that. I'm fairly good at it and can go days without a thought that gets fully formed as words.
Here's how you do it:
1) Meditate with the idea in your head that you are not your thoughts and all thoughts are lies.
2) Observe your thoughts but do not judge them or associate them with you or try to control them. Just like casually watching a movie.
3) Once you've divided "thoughts" from "mind" that is the "mouth" from the "ear" in your head now try stifling the thoughts.
4) With practice, you'll be able to do this reflexively out of habit 24/7.

And that's really it, it's a really simple thing that completely silences the mind. Your thoughts will tell you you need them to perform daily tasks, but that's not true. You'll actually perform tasks exactly the same without thoughts. Thoughts are mostly for strategizing which you don't need to do very often in life.


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Try the following sometime when the mood strikes you
1) Find a quiet place and close your eyes.
2) Try to just be still and observe your thoughts and emotions, not judge them or control them, as if they were a movie.
3) Connect with that inner eye of yours and realize that's the real you.

And you're done, after you do that you'll be able to doubt your own thoughts and shut them off. Eventually you'll reach Zen No-Mind which is where I am.
No thoughts required to write this post or to do any complex task, your mind without mind has all the knowledge and skills you do without the baggage of spurious thought and emotion.

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Ok, step one is you meditate.
Just close your eyes in a quiet place.
Now your brain's gonna go crazy.
Don't control it, don't judge it, just observe it.
You are not your thoughts, you are the observer.
You need to do this for a few minutes until you really understand that.

Then you can just kinda....do it 24/7
Doubt every thought and stifle them.
Your brain will tell you you need thoughts and emotions, that's BS.
I'm sure you've done something Zen in your life, like accidentally doing something amazing thoughtlessly?
Well, it's like that.
I didn't think at all while writing this.
Wukong means "enlightened to emptiness", that's what you're trying to do, to have a mind without mind.

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practice mindfulness meditation. if you learn to OBSERVE thoughts rather than manifest every single thought, your intrusive thoughts will no longer have power over you.

>My favorite state is total purity of mind: no thoughts, no worries, no words. If thoughts appear, they fly by like bugs, like leaves in wind. Pure watching without interpretation.

>Even if I swing into paranoia or mania or crazy energies, for me it's just entertainment. I observe it like a cartoon in front of my eyes. I don't cling

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It's okay to have thoughts but you observe them and let them go. You don't have to act on them. It's easier said than done, especially when the body literally pulls your attention to it - like a crying baby when it's hungry. You can't just ignore it. That's why it has to be channeled in some manner. You know how you can be so invested in the moment that time goes by? Like how gooners can fap for SEVERAL hours, over and over and over, day by day? Imagine putting that focus towards something else. That's also one of the core points behind Semen Retention.

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>What is the point?
This largely depends on the type and school etc of meditation but seated mediation does 2 things at a fundamental level. Regardless of technique

>Increases the gap between urge and reaction
Basically you spend a bunch of time just kind of sitting there. And just sort of not acting on random impulses or fancies or whatever so like eventually you reach a point where you just internalize the fact that you can feel a certain way and are allowed to feel that way but don't need to let that feeling determine your actions type of thing. And become more able to act accordingly in the moment

>Soft resets and unplugs mind from external influences
More important now than ever before but it's just you and where ever you are gives your mind time to get really bored adjust to that and also shake off some baggage you picked up at school, work online etc.

Anyways for a beginner the best strategy is to just sit there in meditation position for 10-15 minutes and just try to observe how you feel what you hear see, what thoughts feelings and visualizations pop through your head you don't have to block out thoughts just don't intentionally think them. Like it's not necessarily going to fast track any spirit powers but is a good base to build other techniques off of that is low pressure.


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Be present and aware of your body at all times. Whenever you can, close your eyes and sit still, do not entertain and engage your thoughts, just observe as they flow by, acknowledge them and then let them pass.
Refine breathing. Smooth, subtle, even breathing will result in mental and physical harmony. Uneven breathing is used too, inhale longer than exhale will engage the physical portion and bring mental clarity, exhale longer than inhale will advance spiritual awareness while burning some energy.
For a beginner, it's better to just observe and let the mechanisms fall into place.
Gradual practice is key, begin with 10-20 minutes of standing practice first, maybe few times throughout the day, then gradually work your way up to an hour or two. Just stillness and breathing.
The rest will come. The more you observe, the more it just clicks.
Best times to practice are 11pm -1am, 3am to 5am, 5am to 7am. Don't practice on New Moon, practice as long as possible around Full Moon. Do not practice from 1pm-4pm.
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If you're not highly experienced with meditation, it's going to take time to set it up each time, you can't just drop it because there's some minor interference. Stop thinking about how you should breath or if your thoughts should disappear or not, all that is counterproductive. Focus on your awareness and guide it to the object of meditation, let it sit there as you observe the object, be it breathing or anything else. Anything that bothers you after that you acknowledge, let it pass through you and return to tending the object of meditation where your awareness is resting. Countless things will bother you at the beginning, you just gotta keep acknowledging them and redirecting your awareness to the object of meditation.

Never reject, hang onto distractions or try to keep them at bay, that is an endless endeavor and it will distract your awareness. You gotta integrate any distraction by acknowledging it and letting it blend with everything else in the edge of your awareness. Awareness gently placed on the object of meditation.

Anyone can meditate if they understand this, which isn't too complicated at all.

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You don't need to control the thoughts, you have to control the reaction you get from the thoughts. Why should bad thoughts make you feel bad? This doesn't need to happen, you can simply observe the thoughts without feeling anything.
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Attention is energy. When you *pay* attention to someone else (like in a conversation) they feel energized and you feel drained. Its why extroverts find conversation energizing while introverts find it draining.

Similarly, you can energize different thoughts by paying attention to them. If you are constantly thinking about disease or accidents you'll attract them. If you think about money and success you'll attract those too.

Similarly, in meditation they teach you to observe your thoughts impartially. Just to listen to the thoughts, observe them briefly, then let them pass. Thus clearing out random thoughtform garbage so that you can be selective about what you pay attention to.


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Friendly reminder: intrusive thoughts are mere background noise, they're not you, observe them, don't participate in them, don't over react to them or be harsh on yourself for having them

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Liber Null training indirectly teaches how to:
Motionlessness
Arrange the body in any comfortable position and try to remain in that position for as long as possible. Try not to blink or move the tongue or fingers or any part of the body at all. Do not let the mind run away on long
trains of thought but rather observe oneself passively. What appeared to be a comfortable position may become agonizing with time, but persist!
Set aside some time each day for this practice and take advantage of any opportunity of inactivity which may arise.
Record the results in the magical diary. One should not be satisfied with less than five minutes. When fifteen have been achieved, proceed to regulation of the breathing.
Breathing
Stay as motionless as possible and begin to deliberately make the breathing slower and deeper. The aim is to use the entire capacity of the lungs but without any undue muscular effort or strain. The lungs may be held full after inhalation for a few moments, or empty after exhalation for a few moments to lengthen the cycle. The important thing is that the mind should direct its complete attention to the breath cycle. When this can be done for thirty minutes, proceed to “not-thinking.”
Not-Thinking
The exercises of motionlessness and breathing may improve health, but they have no other intrinsic value aside from being a preparation for not-thinking, the beginnings of the magical trance condition. While
motionless and breathing deeply, begin to withdraw the mind from any thoughts which arise. The attempt to do this inevitably reveals the mind to be a raging tempest of activity. Only the greatest determination can win even a few seconds of mental silence, but even this is quite a triumph. Aim for complete vigilance over the arising of thoughts and try to lengthen the periods of total quiescence.
Like the physical motionlessness, this mental motionlessness should be practiced at set times and also whenever a period of inactivity presents itself

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You aren't supposed to do anything. Meditation is not image-training. Meditation is not a time for contemplation. To meditate you sit, focus on breathing, nothing, or a useful mantra for not thinking. You will have thoughts, images, words, pulls, all these things. Observe them, don't entertain them, but also don't fight. Just let go. In your body and head, you want your relaxing to make you feel lighter, not heavier. Heavier is bad, that's sleep. Lighter is good, that's meditation.

You should not, cannot, and will not forge any entity connections or experience any travel outside your mind until you feel the opening. I don't want to prep you, but I will just say you will know when it happens and the vividness is on a far different level than imagining and you won't feel your physical body anymore, and begin to learn how intention can guide without thought. Don't expect anything. Don't try for anything. Only relax and allow, it comes when it decides to and not when you decide to. You can only be receptive and open for when it decides to do so. Once it does, then you can actually begin to understand where to start.

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Just focus on your breath. When the intrusive thoughts intrude, and they will, try to observe them instead of feel them. Imagine you're an observer in your own mind, watching someone else think your thoughts. Then go back to focusing on your breath.

Your mind is meant to wander. The Buddha understood this and modern neuroscience shows that when outside stimulus is low, your brain's default mode network takes over, forcing you to daydream or have intrusive thoughts. This is natural. This is going to happen. You are not a failure, your brain is just doing what it was designed to do.

That's why meditation is so powerful. It slowly rewires your brain so it takes longer for the default mode network to take over and force you to think about the past. It's one of the most powerful tools for your mental health. Just remember that minds were designed to wander. When it does, try to be passive and go back to focusing on your breathing. The more you do it, the easier it becomes.

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Just meditate and observe your thoughts and recognize they're not you.
You're the listener, not the speaker, your thoughts are just noise.
Then, when you get good at that, you can do it without meditating and just not have thoughts.

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You could stop trying to change things and listen to your thoughts dispassionately and not try to actively change them, by just watching what you're thinking about. This meditation is similar to self-hypnosis, but it's not! It's simple enough and it avoids killing off the Ego like Eastern thought wants you to do by starving it to death, or filling your mind with only one thought like "OM", so there is no Mantra.

You could do a relaxation of your body first: Sit in a comfortable chair. Bring your attention to your feet and tense them and relax, then tense your legs, let them relax, then move that tension/relaxation wave upwards toward your head, relaxing your whole body completely.

Close your eyes and bring your attention to your whole body. You should feel it tingle. This is your neural body sense. Bring your attention only to your right hand, it will also tingle. As thoughts arise, just dispassionately *Watch* them. The Real You is the Watcher. When you drift away or get lost, gently bring your attention back to your hand.

Don't make judgments or judge anything, including yourself, or try to change anything. Just observe your thoughts. As you watch them, things will slowly be resolved - it takes some time. When you get lost in your thoughts, gently bring your attention back to your right hand again. If something is persistent, like music (you've memorized a lot more than you know), then bring you attention to what you're "seeing" with your eyes closed because it isn't completely dark ~ there are "lights" there so bring your attention to them and Watch, and then bring your attention back to your hand. Occasionally, bring your attention to your forehead and "see" your hand (in your mind's eye) moving to your forehead, and maybe it will go there in time. It may help diminish your roof-brain chatter. This meditation is a variant on Roy Master's meditation.

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>Apocryphon of John

holy shit, this is the culmination of the knowledge i posses now from piecing the puzzle together across multiple religions, bit by bit, over a long period of time..

if only i came across that single page earlier, ugh.

ps: in regards to lessening the ego.
the single most potent practice is vipassana meditation.
but not in the classical sense. its not just sitting twice a day for 30m. thats NOT it.
and its not just labeling thoughts.
this is the cucked version.

the true version is:
- doing it ALL the time
- doing it not just to the thoughts, but also to emotions, sensations, desires, etc.

observe absolutely everything, all the time.

then once this observer is established in you, try to regulate what comes up: prioritize & favor positive emotions. when a negative one arises, call forth a good one and overpower it.

do this non stop.
the observer is the utmost sense of "I".
"I" is absolutely distinct and independent of absolutely everything else, like thoughts/emotinos/desires/will/intention/etc.

the "I" itself is sort of empty.. you can not probe deeper into it. probing by asking "who am I" leads to "I" but nothing leads beyond it.
in the process of probing, you circumcise away all the other things, like thoughts/emotinos etc. until only that sense of "I" remains.

reside in that, permanently.
that is how the ego weakens and atrophies.

practical example: while you are reading this sitting on your chair, become aware of the sensations of your buttocks touching the chair, the sensations on your back touching the chair, the thoughts that appear while parsing and reading this text. observe any emotions attached to the message that come up within you...

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I might find more soon, but past page 12 it gets flooded with unrelated posts..

Ran into this weird side effect: tried to meditate on a MacBook Air 13' late last year after upgrading the RAM. Hit CTRL+F4, keyboard started acting like it'd been dipped in tea, one key kept firing every press. Fixed it by replacing the caps lock switch, but still wish I'd just stick to a $70 Linux box instead.