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Digital Cargo Cult: How Zoomers Ruined Old Internet Nostalgia

| Aug 29, 2025 3:09 AM No.425 [Report]

> The Windows 7 logo looked like this and was also gay-themed in 2009. Don't question it! I need to stay immersed!

It's obviously not the Windows 7 logo. In fact, it's the Windows 95 logo, but with the colors tweaked a bit. It's not supposed to match anything, it's supposed to represent the server.

> The old internet communities they're trying to emulate were built by people who ran their own servers, wrote their own code, understood networking protocols, valued anonymity and pseudonymity, rejected corporate gatekeeping

I do all of those things, and I'm pretty certain a lot of other people in the community also do. Some examples: I run https://teknixstuff.com/ and https://chat.teknixstuff.com/, both of which were written by hand by me (no crappy frameworks or drag-and-drop site builders here). I very much understand networking protocols (how else am I going to manage to come up with a websockets-like protocol which works on IE 5.0?). I do value anonymity and pseudonymity, and I definitely have made efforts to reject corporate gatekeeping (what's ChatDot for? ah yes, it's an alternative to a corporate platform, discord!)

> Yes, actually, it does. You cannot be nostalgic for something you never experienced.

If it's better, you certainly can agree that it's a lot better than the modern stuff. Nostalgia might be the wrong term, but there's definitely a similar thing even if you never experienced it originally.

> The "Y2K" look they worship was mostly corporate branding and early social media platforms. The real independent web looked nothing like their glittery recreations.

Have you actually looked at any of it? Sure, not all of it did (plenty of it was just unstyled html), but a significant portion did look a lot like that.

> The tools to recreate the actual old internet still exist and work perfectly:

> XMPP has been around since 1999 and runs on every platform

> IRC still provides real-time chat without corporate oversight

> Self-hosting is easier than ever with modern tools

> RSS still delivers content without algorithmic manipulation

indeed, they do, but the convenience is often lost there, and many platforms depend on having a lot of users to make sense. XMPP I've barely heard of anybody using, IRC is missing numerous features that are rather important these days (eg: file uploads and being able to read previous messages). Self-hosting definitely does exist and work, thought depending on what you mean by modern tools, it doesn't always make it easier. RSS is useful and still commonplace on websites, even if not commonly used by users, but it doesn't require the same popularity that a chat platform does.

| Aug 29, 2025 4:29 AM No.426 [Report]

Why have the trolls not been banned?

| Aug 29, 2025 5:52 AM No.427 [Report]

you're arguing with underage tourists who will forget about your thread in 2 days tops, you will never change those animals' minds because there are no minds. also don't use tldr because it incentivizes those same subhumans to engage without reading anything

| Aug 29, 2025 6:06 AM No.428 [Report]

these replies are a mess

| Aug 29, 2025 7:27 AM No.429 [Report]

> where are my examples saar where were you on the internet asides from discord saaaar

I accidentally anon'd my examples list, all it takes is to find a very poorly formatted forum post mentioning websites like Twitter, DeviantArt and Bluesky being ass. Other than those I already listed, I just remembered I had a Reddit account at some point, I deleted it because Reddit was ass too. I was on Instagram too after refusing to join it for a while and my account got nuked on the second day of my presence.

| Aug 29, 2025 7:29 AM No.430 [Report]

Also, I like how you think captor and I are the same people. The 4chan format truly is wondrous.

| Aug 29, 2025 7:41 AM No.431 [Report]

> you're arguing with underage tourists who will forget about your thread in 2 days tops, you will never change those animals' minds because there are no minds.

Clearly the dude who mentioned me in the article by name is mindless, I wouldn't have started this kerfuffle here had he not done so. I think it's more brainless given the fact that he decided to target my Steam usernames just because I judged him on the basis of the grammar without looking to the further argument unfolding at AngelBruni's. Dude made it personal for no other reason other than to fuel this article, which I find as a rant of a man who went mad from the internet, plunging into attempting to rewind the internet without realizing that it is damn near impossible for others to follow along (I know from experience, I tried to get others to more open platforms only to be faced with failure). It's not as simple as making a switch in terms of your software like switching to Linux. The only option here is to accept the harsh reality of the corporates winning the internet and every way to overturn this reality will result in failure.

| Aug 29, 2025 7:52 AM No.432 [Report]

It's not even about tech literacy, it's about convenience, and they have grown far too accustomed to corporate slop and no one can convince them to move away because everyone else is using it. The big issue is market share, if the thing has a microscopic market share, there is barely any incentive to invest in it.

| Aug 29, 2025 7:55 AM No.433 [Report]

At the very least it doesn't seem that open modern platforms are dying anytime soon. As much as I do not like Mastodon's user base it truly is a promising platform given its background. Lemmy is also rather emerging.

| Aug 29, 2025 8:57 AM No.436 [Report]

(insert "wall of text" "tl;dr" remark here)

| Aug 29, 2025 10:25 AM No.437 [Report]

Not my problem if some here, ironically, have just as short of an attention span as a median Skibidi Toilet viewer.

| Aug 29, 2025 11:01 AM No.438 [Report]

>Why have the trolls not been banned?

They have been banned. Really hesitating on deleting the posts themselves though since they have all done nothing but indirectly prove the article's points.

This 'Nomad' pissed his pants over being called out on the Internet. Is this really the level of maturity we should expect out of these people?

| Aug 29, 2025 1:45 PM No.439 [Report]

> The Windows 7 logo looked like this and was also gay-themed in 2009. Don't question it! I need to stay immersed!

What fucking argument is that? It's obviously not the Windows 7 logo. If anyone there actually thinks that is the Windows 7 logo I will ban their retarded ass. They can go infest WWF and LSC Discords.
It was only meant to be the pride month logo and I have been way too busy to care about changing it either to the orb or weebshit again

> Making Windows 10 skinwalk an older version of Windows? Having an entire website, but forcing people to join your Discord server instead of having an IRC channel or a forum?

Yes, I agree, but after taking a cheap shot at the logo, they completely fail to mention Eclipse Community. Eclipse Community is supposed to be a public information repository of the stuff on the server. You don't need to join it to get Windows 7 Updated v5, r3dfox, Lun3r, etc. The forum is meant to make that public.

I pretty much only "run" the server so the LSC and WWF don't control all Windows related development on Discord. W7LS server has to exist so they don't get a supermajority and turn it all into shitty slop or fleece their users.

The original idea was to keep the community parts away from Discord, there was no link to W7LS on Eclipse. Maybe you could find one buried in a forum post in the past, but nowadays it's two clicks from eclipse.cx to get to https://eclipse.cx/servers for an invite to W7LS. r3dfox also originally didn't have an invite to the Discord anywhere, it was only until later when I recognized the importance of this fight that I added it. Like I didn't want to support the server at the expense of the forum or the projects, but it's basically mandatory now.

| Aug 29, 2025 1:46 PM No.440 [Report]

> posting retro aesthetic moodboards from $1,200 surveillance devices while claiming to appreciate "simpler times."

I will have you know that I use a 10+ year old laptop, a Dell M4800 running hardened Windows 7 with a custom firewall, as my main workstation now. (I only use 5950X to compile shit nowadays)
I also use an 8 year old phone, a Xperia XZ1 Compact running Android 8 (my own compile of LineageOS 15.1 + MicroG), as my main phone, and I have been using it pretty consistently as my main phone since 2020.

> Zoomers have inherited the outputs without understanding the inputs. They use the language and references while completely missing the underlying ethos that created them.

Eclipse main website, no JavaScript, no cookies, loads instantly on even mediocre connections. Scales pretty well on older devices. While also looking better than any modern fuckoff xyz website. and before you say "Skeuomorphic design existed because early computer users needed familiar metaphors." it looks better than modern slop, fuck off. It's not an opinion, it's a fact, and I will die on this hill.

Eclipse forum, it does use JavaScript and cookies, but that's on phpBB and it works well enough with them blocked. (Unless someone wants to resurrect eBoard2 and make it a competent replacement.) Legacy theme can get the forum working well in even IE6.

Also bro glazes IRC, bitch that shit is ass. Close IRC, boom your chat history is gone, and if there's a conversation while your client is closed, you never get to know it happened. Yes I know you can just leave your PC on 24/7 or run a bouncer, but that shit is not feasible for most people. I used to have a bouncer for one fuckoff IRC channel until they banned me for bullshit, exactly like how it goes on pisscord. That bouncer was a bitch to configure and nowadays it's long gone and I sure as shit am not going to configure another. I'd rather move to Matrix but the clients are all ass. Discord seems to be the only viable chat platform for now until they fuck it up badly enough that I make a good enough Matrix client or if ChatDot comes to exist before then then I will just use it instead.

| Aug 29, 2025 2:38 PM No.441 [Report]

Nah zoomers aren't the problem, normies are. Zoomer normies are just the worst of the worst because they're both children (or young adults) and normies. I'm a zoomer and I use XMPP and host webservers but I'm not a normie by any means.

Normies are raised from birth to believe that their government (usually some form of "democracy") offers them freedom when in reality it only provides a pale imitation. So it really isn't a giant leap for them to accept a watered-down, corporate imitation of the "old internet". It's just in their nature to follow and not question things.

| Aug 29, 2025 2:41 PM No.442 [Report]

>I pretty much only "run" the server so the LSC and WWF don't control all Windows related development on Discord. W7LS server has to exist so they don't get a supermajority and turn it all into shitty slop or fleece their users.

aren't you a pedophile?

| Aug 29, 2025 5:46 PM No.443 [Report]

this argument... it's an ad-hoc

| Aug 29, 2025 9:18 PM No.445 [Report]

the actual true internet nomads are soyjak.party users (and their splinters) but y'all oldcacas are too obsessed with dead 4cuck oldcaca tranime kultur to admit that zoomerBVLLS are capable of using actual old internet shit and bringing the torch forward. any time a zoomerDEITY makes a site, you clittycels are the first to screech about how "DA HEGGIN ZOOMIES" are "ROONIN MUH OLDCVCK KULTUR".

That said, trvthnvke of an article. Attached is a relevant XKCD comic about this exact subject.

| Aug 29, 2025 9:21 PM No.446 [Report]

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| Aug 29, 2025 9:31 PM No.448 [Report]

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| Aug 29, 2025 9:38 PM No.449 [Report]

works on my machine

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| Aug 29, 2025 10:00 PM No.450 [Report]

works on my machine as well

| Aug 29, 2025 10:05 PM No.451 [Report]

wait are anonymous attachments broken?

| Aug 29, 2025 11:34 PM No.452 [Report]

The server's SQL time was off compared to our site's time, causing anonymous attachments to break. Sorry!

Here is proof that attachments now work:

It will disappear after 15 minutes, of course.

| Aug 29, 2025 11:52 PM No.454 [Report]

>The server's SQL time was off compared to our site's time, causing anonymous attachments to break. Sorry!

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