I've been daily driving linux for years now and here are the things i can think of:

• awful software distribution, especially for proprietary
• corpo tranimals running every project, making it subject to die overnight out of nowhere(just like the devs)
• insane defaults everywhere, often not following any standards at all
• the "customization" that's often advertised is massively exaggerated, instead of having 100 different choices for each part of the system, realistically you get like 2-5 at most with even less being of high quality, which is even debatable

I wonder if those things could be fixed without just sitting down and writing mountains of code alone

yeah i fucking hate linux sometimes, i'm dualbooting win10 and alpine linux and i can't fucking figure out why i need all of these retarded dependencies

>oh yeah this filemanager that has nonfunctional features for no reason is gonna use qt
>but if i want some other functional features while the ones that worked in the other ones are broken i'm gonna have this gtk one
>but you also gotta download these "optional" dependencies in order for it to work
>but they won't work anyway if you download it
>you might need to do some config autism but there is no documentation on it since this program has existed for 15 years
>just werks on my machine bro shut the fuck up!!!!

with linux you can either have

>microcock tier corruption, bloat and performance
>you dont truly control your computer and it's painfully obvious
^ ubuntu, debian.. redhat..
or
>undocumented shit that has a 10% chance of working on your computer
>atleast your computer only uses 500 megs of ram at idle with nothing open with your minimalist WM and background services
>even though winXP only needed 50 megs for a full system but don't worry about that
^ alpine.. (arch, gentoo) tiny core... puppy... etc

damn

this stupid fucking piece of shit alpine linux can't find the WiFi network that I've connected it to before in the past

I can't even do the fucking setup interfaces reboot jank trick because THE FUCKING WIFI INTERFACE SETUP COMMAND NEEDS WIFI IN ORDER TO SET UP A WIFI CONNECTION

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WHAT IS THIS FAGGOTRY

Everything on Linux feels desktop/GUI second and terminal first which 99% of users don't want.

>wifi on linux
heh...

I would also add unstable apis being a notable problem

Trannies constantly changing shit around for no reason makes it impossible for normal people to write software for linux

dont worry the multibillion dollar casino kike is going to save linux with his wine fork!

also:

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The fundamental problem with Linux distros for general desktop usage is the entire core idea of decentralizing software distribution by having several highly centralized distributors instead.

>awful software distribution, especially for proprietary

GOOD, give me the source code or fuck off

>corpo tranimals running every project, making it subject to die overnight out of nowhere(just like the devs)

who cares? as long as the software works

>insane defaults everywhere, often not following any standards at all

RTFM

>the "customization" that's often advertised is massively exaggerated, instead of having 100 different choices for each part of the system, realistically you get like 2-5 at most with even less being of high quality, which is even debatable

this one is true but that's still better than windows where you can't change anything

The only way Linux could succeed is if it came preinstalled on laptops, But even then all it would take is one faggot making a scene because his zoomer competitive slop doesn't work to ruin it all for everyone

skill issue

no one is stopping you from forking everything and explicitly banning trannies from contributing

>no one is stopping you
isn't xlibre being presented as the antichrist to anyone who isn't anywhere near the right though?

it may be but so what, it's not like trannies are going to kill you over it, right?

Troons are essential to the OSS ecosystem.

They are kind of like cockroaches in that they're disgusting and everyone hates them but they are helpful at the end of the day.

If trannies didn't shit out their garbageware and stir drama every day we would have stagnation.

This is bad because zoomers(currently young adults) need a constant supply of new things to think about to stay engaged.

>They are kind of like cockroaches in that they're disgusting and everyone hates them but they are helpful at the end of the day.

Lol wtf is this metaphore? How are cockroaches helpful?

They aren't.
Kill pedotroons on sight.

> who cares? as long as the software works
The point is that its not going to work soon
> If trannies didn't shit out their garbageware and stir drama every day we would have stagnation.
No you dumb retard nigger, We get stagnation right now because nothing can progress forward with them in the way
Just look at xorg, Transvestites killed it instead of improving it
And now theyre seething because their hard "work" is being reverted
TTD

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Linux is best sir! all my java azure server is linux!
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Alpine Linux wifi issue anon here, I managed to get it working after asking fucking AI because there were no actual docs on the Internet and search results wielded garbage and irrelevant links

Maybe these people should get replaced!

I installed Windows 7, too. My low end Athlon is not up for the job of dealing with Windows 10+'s vapid bullshit and kernel input latency.

There have been many before you who tried to fix it.
All of them failed, either rage quit or bent the knee to the troons in hopes of coding their way out of the grim bottomless pit one day.
The task is plainly Sisyphean and you're better off just raping windows xp/7 into being viable because that's actually possible to accomplish.
But it's all pointless... There is no light at the end of the tunnel. One day good desktop experience will require amounts of tinkertrannying so unfathomably large, you will be better off not using a computer at all.

just use guix
GNU will forever love you!

Do you use Guix?
We can make this a desktop thread if you want to

>turn on computer
>xfce desktop appears
>use my computer uninterrupted, unbothered and absolutely blissful for the entire day
OP is a cock sucking faggot as usual

>OP is a cock sucking faggot as usual

okay but what distro are you using

i think the biggest problem with Linux is that developers aren't compensated in any way so they either work for free (cucks) or they resort to being a bunch of LGBTQIA+PEDO+ZOO++ grifters for donations.
imagine if they could actually apply for some kind of benefits from the government if their software is popular.

You can only get benefits from the gov if your software is useful to them, and I don't think they'll be needing new GUI's any time soon

Doesn't Microsoft provide all of the software they'll need?

if those microniggers provided anything they wouldn't need WSL

> linux
attachment:1

just make it paid and source available
...
oh wait you can't do that because your trannyware wouldn't be any better than free alternative some pedo cuck makes LOLOLOLOLOL

Is BSD good?

*bsd are pointless since almost nobody uses them on the desktop so you get 0 support for everything
also freebsd is troonified now and openbsd is just for firewalls

This website is garbage

Just a bunch of autistic retards

>This website is garbage
plenty of other threads and site articles for you to read

>Just a bunch of autistic retards
normalfag filtered. feel free to go back to tiktok anytime

Open source developers should stop catering to memes and schizos and have telemetry in their programs so they don't essentially work blind on a project.

99% of people don't care that someone else knows that they run $SOFTWARE_VERSION on $DISTRO with $SOFTWARE_SETTINGS or a stack trace after a crash.

Ideally there would be a universal telemetry protocol made that streamlines the whole process. The client gathers all the telemetry data from the programs and sends it all out when the computer is idle or in light use, so that nobody has to deal with performance issues because of it. This way anyone would be able to host a universal telemetry server for anyone to use, I imagine the Linux Foundation and a bunch of individuals would be willing to provide the developers with free hosting.

Of course you can still be a heckin' privacymaxxing hackerman and disable it.

linux users need to stop hating on proprietary so much i think...
It may have been a problem a long time ago but with the amount of libre tools, docs and knowledge that allow you to create any software you want it's no more. These days if the standard proprietary program is flawed you can just make an alternative one.
Also, malicious instructions hiding in the binaries are not a problem since sandboxxing exists - which should be the default everywhere by the way, and the fact that most open source software is not thoroughly verified whether its malicious unless it's security critical or under suspicion

>These days if the standard proprietary program is flawed you can just make an alternative one.

You should definitely take a look at all of the open source Discord clones that people have tried to make solely because they're just too afraid of going back to using IRC, Mumble, and XMPP clients (Discord eats more memory than all 3 of the top clients altogether!)

IF You don't like any of them you can make your own

An entire OS and it's ecosystem is a very complex problem that's just impractical to tackle by a bunch of uncoordinated hobbyists most of whom are teenagers

>IF You don't like any of them you can make your own
I already have IRC, Mumble, and XMPP clients that serve me well. No need!

>An entire OS and it's ecosystem is a very complex problem that's just impractical to tackle by a bunch of uncoordinated hobbyists most of whom are teenagers
this
big scale technology requires big scale manpower to function properly

What part of "server OS" do you not understand?

install mainline arch
install gnome/kde
work
nuff said

>awful software distribution, especially for proprietary
The majority, if not the entirety of modern Linux relies on the Internet to work.

Modern Linux distros aren't casually giving/selling software repositories in offline DVD/USBs anymore. It's up to the user now if they want an offline Linux..

Everything is reliant on the repositories. If they cannot be access for ANY reason, you're fucked if you need to do anything in relation to packages.

Portable software on Linux also has its own problems. While on Windows we can just shove .exes into a folder of our choice and run a minimalist Windows with maybe a USB containing our toolkit, this is an extremely difficult practice to pull off on Linux, especially if you:

Use a distro that is not mainstream
Want to use software that might be slightly newer or older than your distro
Want prioritize minimal use of system resources

idk bro

ironically linux is more centralized than the corporate windows

> b-but you can change the repo urls!
not an argument

So if Linux is so shit then what are you supposed to use? I'm not going to tardwrangle windows 7 and windows 10 is full of telemetry.

again with the incessant /g/-style os flamewar thread

If this were a jaynigger thread you would see apple shilling and blatant bots and samefagging
Also the point of the thread was to list actual issues linux desktop has at a foundational level, not to cry about common issues
Ex. instead of calling linux dogshit because your printer doesn't work maybe you should instead address WHY your printer doesn't work and HOW it happened

> windows 10 is full of telemetry

You can disable it though. https://rentry.org/concisewin10

>You can disable it though. https://rentry.org/concisewin10

refer to https://cy-x.net/articles?id=11
>>People say they've "debloated their Windows" all the time, but have any of them actually checked to see if that was true?

I've read somewhere that if you block windows telemetry on the network level, windows is going to fallback to some important aws server that if you block, half of the internet stops working
is this true?

A lot of the trans people in open source are useful idiots...
not some evil cabal.
The bad guys are corporate employees running the show and telling those trans people what to do.
They are shunned everywhere they go and those corporate weasels know this and they embrace them so that they become loyal to them.
Its like an adopted dog that would die for his owner.

yeah i don't get the hate either

like

"those ppl feel bad about themselves so they harm linux"

...

Lowkey, I had 90% at 08:00 on my linux machine, as of now it's 47%.

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Linux desktop is not a serious endeavor and that's displayed by how despite those foundational issues listed above being well known, no one has attempted to address them, instead OSS programmers just throw more stuff on top of the horrible base.

I have also been thinking about this and I have decided that the only way to make Linux desktop work is to redesign and rewrite major parts of the system but doing that would also make it incompatible with existing Linux distributions.

Although in the end it may be a useless effort anyway! After all, how many users could it possibly gain? First of all they would have to be dissatisfied with both Linux and Windows, which I feel is already quite a requirement because on the surface it appears that the definitive majority of non-normie users are fine with either one.

name one reason why win 10 telemetry is bad without implying that you're a pedophile

its not a big deal now but one day windows will automatically report you the authorities for saying nigger or something

> name one reason why win 10 telemetry is bad

Telemetry carries a risk of creating dangerous precedents. Nothing is ever done in big batches, but in small compromises which snowball over time.

People generally wouldn’t give a stranger their house/car keys, and they’d most definitely find it incredibly uncomfortable to have their entire city know about their fetishes.

Yet, they’d readily share valuable information with data brokers, because they've grown numb due to convenience and manipulative practices. Never forget that we're at the epitome of information warfare.

You’re free to prioritize your own desired level of convenience. That’s the key element of a fulfilling life, after all. Never forget that consequences are inevitable and our current lifestyles are increasingly unsustainable, and signs of a descent into a new age of fascism are unmistakable.

This is much deeper than "having something to hide". This is often a tactic used to control the narrative, as it is meant to simplify and desensitize something to make it mono-dimensional.

This has evolved in a slightly longer post, but I'm writing it with the best intentions in mind.

Close your eyes, clear your mind, detach yourself from the equation and try to imagine the situation from a higher point in your life. Make this a habit.

nothing ever happens retard
the world is the same as 20 years ago just with a different coat of paint
kikes knowing what you do in your free time won't cause some kind of revolution
you watched too many movies.

besides
don't you have your guns to save you from the overreaching government? kek

> Download preinstalled game
> Launch with lutris (the only way to use proton without tinkering like a mentally ill fag)
> Black screen for 5 minutes on startup
> No audio
> Laggy AF
> Broken functionality
Welp, I guess i should've shilled out those $80 for a permission to play the game only while online and spied on like a good linux user :-/

> the world is the same as 20 years ago just with a different coat of paint
Your imprudence and choice of words makes me question whether you have lived half that long. The contrary would be an unsettling amount of asininity.

> don't you have your guns to save you from the overreaching government?
By which measure do you go by to think that everyone you meet on the internet is American?

I beg your pardon, but maybe you can find a forum more befitting of your maturity. Or you can try to actually say something valuable, with actual thought put into it.

>you said the heckin' problematic word!
>therefore you must be underage!
>you must talk like a bot on the internet!

kek rope looney trooney

why wouldn't i assume you're american? screaming "fascism" is pretty on brand with obsessed american transvestite pedophiles...

>yeah i don't get the hate either

>like

>"those ppl feel bad about themselves so they harm linux"

>...

trannies are a cancer. They're a bunch of self-absorbed, mentally ill freaks who think the world revolves around their delusions of gender identity. Newsflash: it doesn't.

First off, they're always whining about inclusivity and diversity, trying to force their perverted ideology down our throats. While dismissing anyone they don't like as literally hitler(You deserve to be murdered in front of your entire family, teehee). They demand special treatment, like gender-neutral pronouns, as if that's anyone's problem. It's a distraction from actual coding and progress. And on top of that, it has been proven time and time again that if you give them this one inch, they ALWAYS take a mile(hijack the project) with 100% success rate.

Second, most troons are complete retards when it comes to tech. They can't even write a hello world to save their pathetic lives. But they have the audacity to contribute to projects, often with half-baked, poorly thought-out ideas that slow down development. It's like letting a toddler play with sharp objects.

Third, their fragile egos can't handle criticism. If you dare point out flaws in their code or suggest improvements, they'll cry muh transphobia and try to get you banned from projects. They're toxic as hell and poison the community with their bullshit drama and hypersensitivity.

Fourth, they often have a superior attitude, acting as if their """"struggle"""" gives them some moral high ground. In reality, they're just attention-seekers and narcissists.

But I'm preaching to the choir here anyway, as anyone who actually had to go through the torment that is working with those demented faggots knows this well, and if you think it's not THAT bad then you're either an obtuse double-digit-IQ ape (possibly a tranny in denial yourself) or you're just plain trolling.

For any troons reading this: please present us with a project that got troonified(trans. became """inclusive""") and then got objectively better rather than much, much worse. (please note the emphasis on objectivity)

Oh and TTD btw

>linux thread
>look inside
>trannies

You don't need to use some Tranny scripts to disable spyware in windows 10
Literally just block connections to microsoft via a firewall

There's not a single good DE

KDE and GNOME are bloated, buggy and unstable

Xfce is stuck in the 90's

Anything other than those 3 is irrelevant and unsupported

here's your linux bro:

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That's wonderful news
I hope they do leave, that would be a huge step forward for NixOS. No more of these disgusting freaks destroying the project with their inane shit

People like them shouldn't even be allowed to exist, let alone contribute to open source projects. It's a travesty that they've been allowed this far.

I've never used NixOS only because of its disgusting tranny infested community. If those niggers leave, maybe I'll give it a try

What's your beef with trans people? Ever had a tranny in your bed or something?
I'm genuinely curious, as your vitriol is unmatched. I've seen some salty comments, but you take the cake.
I'd like to point out that NixOS is a Linux distro, not a social club. It's about the OS, not the people. But I suppose you'd rather have it be a club, where only the """right""" people are allowed in, right?
Also, I'll have you know that the """tranny infestation""" you speak of consists of a few people out of hundreds of contributors. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
If you ever do try NixOS, don't come crying to us when you realize it's too dificult to use for a tranny obsessed cretin like you, since the whole point is to have reproducible builds, something you wouldn't know anything about lmao

guix system doesn't have such problems as it's run by straight white men

Yeah i'll be trying out the guix distro soon, though i'll need the non-guix channel because i need certain troonware

Guix has no software though

I don't see any free software missing from the guix repo THOUGH