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Debate: Where did the time of Flash Games being replaced with Modern Day Slop?
Sep 26 at 12:16:10 in ???  |  [RSS Feed]


Dignity [VPN] [DATACENTER] - Sep 26 at 12:16:10 #51742

= Introduction =

Most people in our generation (Zoomers) have long since forgotten the existence of Flash Games, This includes some websites.

If you asked the current Zoomers of our time (People of High Schoolers), 4/10 people would say that they remember flash games, while the others are addicted to doom scrolling on their shitty IPhone 17 Pro Max.

Now the issue with this current generation and the new generation (Gen A) and afterwards, will forget about flash games and Adobe Flash of itself.

Meanwhile, the ones that were/are hyper-active about the internet, and had a functioning brain before December 31st, 2020 still do remember about Flash Games. (Us of course)

As with websites. They've moved on! (Not New-grounds, that stays the same as they use https://ruffle.rs to emulate flash) As the saying goes that "new things will replace the old things", just as how we are slowly replacing jobs that can be automated (which sucks)

= Why Do I think that Zoomers should try to Indulge into Flash =

Now for me to explain why Zoomers should try to indulge into Flash Games, like FlashPoint or directly downloading the SWF file and using Ruffle to play.

Let's go back a few years, Flash itself was the old method to play games whenever we were bored. Do any of you (I know mostly everyone does here) have ever gone to a website that hosted Flash games? Maybe we were all in Middle School, or even High School (Before you graduated of course if you're an adult.). I do for sure, when I was in 5th grade I was playing fucking Bloons TD 5 on a school computer!

Super Smash Flash (the original was hosted on flash), all that great shit. Portal: The Flash Version, Super Mario Flash or anything of that sort? Maybe you all logged onto CoolMathGames and played the flash games, or AmoredGames, Kongregate, any of those! I know we all had the fun within the Flash-core itself.

Even like Red Ball (The original orignal or the Current new one), Road of The Dead, and such..

But the main reason why I think we should indulge them to play Flash Games, is not for ""Nostalgic Reasons"", but it's for the hell of it. I know some of you folks love using FFDec (Free Flash Decompiler) or any tools to ""Mod""/""Hack"" Flash games to your own liking. but even that of itself can and probably will Indulge zoomers who are trying to be wannabe ""Modders""/""Hackers"".

= Summary =

I know I skipped over my point of why we should indulge zoomers into flash, but the summary here is short-explanatory.

They'll see why it's fun, but if some zoomers ask "Why's the quality so shit?" or "Why are you showing me this?". If you personally know the zoomer in person, you can respectfully beat them down into the ground. But for all we can know is that flash is fun.

If they like short attention span games, find a flash exclusive short attentions span game. If someone wants puzzles for free and not some paid workaround, give them flash puzzles.

= The Downside of Flash / The Cons of Flash =

While I did say flash was good, there's a few downsides/Cons to this.
-- FPS Drops massively if handled against something too much.

  • Now while you could have the most geeked out gaming setup or the average laptop specifications, but regardless what you do, either too much physics, too much of anything, your FPS will drop!

-- Porn Games

  • Do I need to say anything why this is really bad? Especially that Zoomers are fucking jerking off to Pornography constantly instead of Icing their balls and not jacking off.

-- Can get tiring quickly

  • If you've been playing the same franchise or swapping games for new experiences, you may start feeling bored or tired as it wasn't made for modern-day people's standards.

== Conclusion ==

In conclusion of this, I believe that there's some Pros and Cons to this Flash ordeal, you can try to convince company zoomer bootlickers (Discord users) and they'll always scream "IT'S A VIRUSSS BANNN PLEASEEE THEY OFFENDED MY LITTLE TRANNY SHIT!" and they'll throw a sissy fit of a tantrum, or you'll talk to the big men of IRC or XMPP and they'll agree that flash games were better (even though some of them could also disagree.)

That's all for today, this isn't an article but it's a method of me saying, "Debate me".

Signing off.


Dignity [VPN] [DATACENTER] - Sep 26 at 12:18:50 #51743

+ Extra Info +

Most Animations back in the early bird days, used Flash. A common popular example is Madness Combat.

There's a whole other sub-genre of flash that even I don't wanna get my hands on, but even then, flash movies, flash games, or anything of a note takes time to code, and make.


Anonymous [VPN] [DATACENTER] - Sep 28 at 19:43:31 #51777

I like flash games and movies as much as the other and i get where you're coming from as i stuck around on sites such as stick page and a few others. but the biggest issue with back then up until it's final days is that there was an ungodly amount of security holes with flash that was on par with javascript at the time, it wasn't uncommon for me having to help clean up my neighbors computer because they went to a sketchy site that had cool looking flash games or movies and ended up getting malware and on one occasion access to a printer and printing out a goatci. i can't really blame adobe abandoning flash entirely, it simply wasn't worth the time trying to patch out every single thing and it being proprietary didn't help at all either.
Now if we exclude all these problems that flash had and flash kept hanging around today - i don't think they would still be any relevance due to the fact that smartphones basically killed a large chunk of flash's popularity, while flash died officially in 2020, it was already in the process of dying around 2013 and steve jobs invention only worsened it.
And here we are today, where mobile "games" and various other modern slop replaced flash even before it's support even ended.
Web-based games are still around and there was a few decent ones during the past few years but it's pretty much niche at this point.


Dignity - Sep 29 at 09:54:08 #51783

>security holes with flash that was on par with javascript at the time

As this is true that some websites also ran flash as a login system, you are correct about the vulnerabilities underneath flash.


Anonymous [Tor] - Sep 29 at 11:50:58 #51784

It was never about the underlying technology, it's about what it represented
With flash normies created soul out of boredom

Now its tiktok, and instead they create engagement bait garbage out of desire to become famous, rich, or just attention whoring - and that's assuming they create anything at all, as those corporate platforms and even smartphones themselves heavily deincentivize creating, and incentivize consuming as well as said attentiong whoring, upvote farming, etc. of course - by design

You're nostalgic for a world that was human, and that's more than reasonable

In fact even those same tiktok normies miss that world - only subconsciously, you can see it in their behavior.
People are going crazy.

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=eu8O2Suxo9A


Anonymous [VPN] [DATACENTER] - Sep 29 at 13:56:25 #51786

>It was never about the underlying technology
Yes and also no, while flash brought innovation (also shitposting)cooked up by some guy in their bedroom - the average joe back then didn't really make much of anything, they pretty much consumed flash content like they do with whatever the latest thing is today, either that or they didn't bothered with computers too much hardly. but the technology with flash was it's biggest issue within and external threats coming from apple.
As i stated flash was hilariously insecure and top that off with WinXP you got a recipe for disaster. not saying that XP's successors were any better but it was pretty common to see XP machines get infected with malware.
>Now its tiktok, and instead they create engagement bait garbage out of desire to become famous, rich, or just attention
You're basically witnessing the fruits of the capitalist system and while i can't say much about anywhere else but in north america the education system basically teaches you anti-social behaviors and to see your community and neighbors as "competitors" and encourages you to screw your neighbor not love your neighbor. i often refer to it as 'American Psychosis'
But at that point i'm talking less about flash and more about the issue with western societies in general and capitalist system shaping the internet to make a profit.


Anonymous - Sep 29 at 23:14:06 #51789

> the average joe back then didn't really make much of anything, they pretty much consumed flash content like they do with whatever the latest thing is today
the difference is they were consuming much less and the ratio of production to consumption was higher which facilitated a genuinely diverse environment - ironically something diversity-obsessed corporations in charge of the current internet don't encourage at all
in fact even as little as typing a thought-out comment like this one is producing, normies don't - and can't do that anymore because it's easier to either post a meme to gain upvotes or not post anything at all - since typing on a phone "keyboard" is difficult
normies are also being conditioned since a very young age into consuming via smartphones and viewing computers as merely a bigger alternative to the smartphone - stealing a lot of the potential creators had they grown up with computers and taught that computers are not just consuming devices
and even people who did nothing but consume were better off consuming the soulful product of some random bored guy instead of decaying their brain with corporate profit-driven mind poison
thought, you are correct in that america is the most prominent instance of this issue, the "love your neighbor" mentality is still present outside of the united states but you cannot ignore the fact that everything seeps out of america sooner or later, it will probably be the most noticeable with the ever-online gen alpha growing up since zoomers were exposed to that "older" internet, even if for a just a little bit

i'm very worried about the future of the sense of humanity


Anonymous - Oct 1 at 04:06:00 #51810

why did you make a new fucking thread did you not look through the forum

https://cy-x.net/forum?f=1&page=4&f=1


yp22 - Oct 16 at 17:12:46 #52279

I still remember the donkey game where you make swords it was fun

Oh and I managed to find it's called Jacksmith. I also used to play papa's pizzeria and other games similar to that one


yp22 - Oct 16 at 17:25:17 #52283

Oh yeah and btw I am a cuckord user and sometimes a doom scroller and I don't say "IT'S A VIRUSSS BANNN PLEASEEE THEY OFFENDED MY LITTLE TRANNY SHIT!" So your argument is false


yp22 - Oct 16 at 17:33:13 #52284

Come to think of it

Roblox is kind of similar to flash games (the web ones)

  • You go to a website

  • You got a bunch of free games you can play

  • and 0 downloads required to play said games

Does this mean Roblox might've had an actual competitor? Probably
But sadly those websites are long gone thanks to Adobe dropping support for flash

If those websites ever come back, Roblox might have an actually good alternative \ competitor and they might stop getting away with their shitty updates (like the continuous degredation of Roblox studio and the Roblox engine) and terrible moderation that probably isn't even trying to keep pedophiles away from minors