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schools can't possibly cope with AI around
Sep 4 at 01:30:02 in General Discussion  |  [RSS Feed]


Anonymous - Sep 4 at 01:30:02 #51293

>go back to school for shits and giggles mostly cause my job is paying for it
>been out of education for a while so it's an adjustment but nothing terrible so far
>not completely against AI - I end up using it for studying or bullshitting an assignment or two that I don't care about
>end up getting a professor that is particularly anti AI
>im talking brainworm obsessed with it in a bad way
>will never stop talking about how it's evil and if you wanna fail his class then use it
>oh boy
>mind you - I've only been using AI as a study aid if a professor is particularly bad at lecturing and ofc the most anti AI of them all is something else
>anytime he comes in for class he has zero structure or rhyme or reason as to how he teaches
>he doesnt tie anything back to any assignments nor even attempts to really break down assignments after their due dates
>every lecture boils down to him just mindlessly wandering the front of the room going off a checklist of random shit to talk about
>naturally this is the one class I'm almost compelled to use AI with to figure out wtf is going on
>and naturally this is also the one professor who goes particularly schizo over it
it's getting to the point of how I remember my worst of maths teachers in grade school would treat the calculator as some instrument of Satan when it comes to AI

either learn to actually teach so students don't feel compelled to use AI for your class or stop bitching about it just because you personally tie your ego to all the shit you know but are now quickly becoming an ancient dinosaur with

when are people gonna learn to adapt to all this instead of seething over it and letting it live rent free in their heads

Anonymous - Sep 4 at 03:17:48 #51297

You're literally atrophying your already lazy brain and think you're smarter than your professor. This will bite you in the ass one day and you'll deserve it.


Anonymous - Sep 4 at 05:38:33 #51298

His professor IS a retard though


Anonymous - Sep 4 at 05:49:32 #51299

Then what does that say about OP?


Anonymous - Sep 4 at 05:57:36 #51300

https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/mit-study-finds-artificial-intelligence-use-reprograms-the-brain-leading-to-cognitive-decline/

MIT Study Finds Artificial Intelligence Use Reprograms the Brain, Leading to Cognitive Decline

>A new MIT study titled, Your Brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of Cognitive Debt when Using an AI Assistant for Essay Writing Task, has found that using ChatGPT to help write essays leads to long-term cognitive harm—measurable through EEG brain scans. Students who repeatedly relied on ChatGPT showed weakened neural connectivity, impaired memory recall, and diminished sense of ownership over their own writing. While the AI-generated content often scored well, the brains behind it were shutting down.


Anonymous - Sep 5 at 15:09:53 #51325

>>A new MIT study titled, Your Brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of Cognitive Debt when Using an AI Assistant for Essay Writing Task, has found that using ChatGPT to help write essays leads to long-term cognitive harm—measurable through EEG brain scans. Students who repeatedly relied on ChatGPT showed weakened neural connectivity, impaired memory recall, and diminished sense of ownership over their own writing. While the AI-generated content often scored well, the brains behind it were shutting down.

OPs reason for using AI was justified. As long as you don't let it take control, you're fine.


Anonymous - Sep 5 at 20:01:44 #51329

>MIT Study Finds Artificial Intelligence Use Reprograms the Brain, Leading to Cognitive Decline
Didn't read it yet but I feel like this study was done by old people or teachers who wanted to prove that they haven't become obsolete

Why the fuck should I have to put up with shitty, irresponsible teachers and retarded children whose parents can't get ahold of them (at least where I live) when I can use AI and it'll immediately give me a proper rundown on the subject I am interested in?

While yes, it should not be trusted for medium+ sized coding projects or history/ideology, it's a good tool at best.


Anonymous - Sep 6 at 07:57:09 #51334

The last 2 posts prove that the study is right.


LostintheCycle ## WRITER - Oct 5 at 06:35:32 #51859

I can tell you why he's so grumpy about it. Because he has to sit down and mark assignment after assignment of generated junk. It'd make anyone go crazy. I'd rather read an awful but honest attempt at work, at least it's not boring.
Though students say it's just a 'study aid', let's be real, most of the real application of these programs is completing work, thus committing plagiarism. It's bad to have an environment where the violation of academic integrity is at all acceptable. Today, undergrads generate their reports. Tomorrow, what's wrong with a bit of falsified data? We're pretty sure our fake data would be accurate anyway...

"Learn to actually teach"... words I've often heard from my peers in my last three years at university. I've accepted that bad teachers are simply the rule, and that it doesn't get better. My experiences have only become more absurd, more strict, more hellish. Every semester I have to send multiple e-mails to assessors who screwed up my marking and 90% of the time I am correct, they admit they screwed up. I hate having to do that. You'd be fired from a lesser paid job if you made mistakes at even a quarter the rate a university assessor does.
My advice to you? Don't complain; go with the flow; take it on the chin; and keep on moving. If you complain about everything that goes wrong in university, you'll constantly be pissed off, because very rarely do things seem to go right.

Out of curiosity, what are you studying? Something computer or engineering probably? I don't know any other degree that gets sponsored.


Anonymous [Tor] [DATACENTER] - Oct 5 at 13:21:14 #51872

The sheer audacity to constantly fill online places with continuous whining never fails to amaze me. Clearly, if LLMs haven't cooked your brain cells, at least attempt to find solutions. So, at the very least, no one would point out your pretentious hypocrisy.

Tools can yield results that are either beneficial or harmful, depending on the person using them. These instruments cannot rob anyone of something they don't possess initially.


Anonymous - Oct 5 at 19:27:18 #51886

>when I can use AI and it'll immediately give me a proper rundown on the subject I am interested in?

That's the issue, I don't know how you've never ran into any situation with an LLM where it just hallucinated something that was wholly inaccurate or completely fabricated. You're using it in precisely the most dangerous and ridiculous way, because it will very confidently spew absolute bullshit at you and if you're learning the subject then you will have no way of verifying the output of the LLM.

If you want to use LLMs to generate some boilerplate code or otherwise just save you the effort of typing something that is already within your abilities but is truly just a waste of time (like writing a "unique" cover letter for each of the 20 jobs you might be applying to) then go ahead. But if you're using it to study you're just fooling yourself, you already said you're employed so there's not a massive amount of pressure to finish this degree or get perfect grades, so go find a book or alternative lectures on the subject online, take some stimulants of your choice, and study in the same exact way people did a decade ago.


Anonymous - Oct 6 at 02:21:20 #51887

>if you're using it to study you're just fooling yourself

I usually use give it the material to make anki cards out of.
The hallucinations can be a problem, but they won't be if you've read the material at least once beforehand, and the hallucinations are painfully obvious most of the time.

This saves a lot of time writing my own cards or studying directly from the material.

That's just my personal way of doing things though.


Anonymous - Oct 6 at 02:46:26 #51889

AI is kind of incapable of doing geometry


Anonymous - Oct 6 at 08:23:24 #51898

>the hallucinations are painfully obvious most of the time

I'm sorry, but do you realize how insane this sounds? You have no idea if it's hallucinating or not, you're just going based off of vibes on a subject you're not well-versed in, in a situation where there is absolutely reason to assume that risk. Studying is inherently an inefficient process, and is intentionally so because we are inefficient beings and the repetition is needed to solidify concepts in our heads.

If you wanted to "solve" studying a decade ago you could have just refused to learn the subject and decided that it was ok with you if the subject could only be recalled by consulting the pre-existing literature.


_admin - Oct 8 at 07:18:15 #51947

AI will replace teachers. When it comes to explaining school stuff AI is magnitudes better than the average teacher at explaining things in a way that you personally understand.
Also, mandatory education is a cancer and ppl learning for no other reason than money will forget everything anyway.
"Oh AI is rotting your brain!"
>Implying students remember what was on the test one week later

When people learn out of their own self interest, that's when you get smart ppl for real that change society and do the big developmental steps.
Most revolutionary inventions and ideas came from self taught ppl.
I recomend reading the book "Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling" by Taylor Gatto

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Anonymous - Oct 8 at 16:46:40 #51966

>I'm sorry, but do you realize how insane this sounds? You have no idea if it's hallucinating or not, you're just going based off of vibes on a subject you're not well-versed in, in a situation where there is absolutely reason to assume that risk.

If I have doubts I consult the literature, because I pre-read it instead of letting the AI take control, I can always catch a mistake. I've never had the problem where I ended up learning a hallucination.

>Studying is inherently an inefficient process, and is intentionally so because we are inefficient beings and the repetition is needed to solidify concepts in our heads.

Repetition is exactly what I'm doing when I use flashcards, so I don't see your point.

>If you wanted to "solve" studying a decade ago you could have just refused to learn the subject and decided that it was ok with you if the subject could only be recalled by consulting the pre-existing literature.

I'm not trying to solve studying, I just want my studying to be more efficient, that's completely different.
Statistically I've had better results since I've started using AI for studying, though I don't have any proof I'd be willing to show.