It seems to me that there are only a few themes that make up the majority of modern black music.

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It seems to me that there are only a few themes that make up the majority of modern black music.

(1) "I'm the best." Sometimes, they'll specify a thing they're the best at, like "I'm the best rapper." Sometimes they'll phrase it as "I'm better than you" or simply, "you suck." (2) "I have the most." This is mostly about material wealth: "Look at this gold chain I have." It can also be about getting women. (3) "I want to fuck." Or, some other base desire. I'm tempted to put "I want to get high" in another category, but for now, I'll put it here.

They also combine them. So, "I'm the best at fucking" is a combination of (1) and (3). Tupac's famous line, "you claim to be a player but I fucked your wife" combines all three. It says you suck, it says I've obtained something (your wife) and of course, I fucked her.

In their defense, some portion of this phenomenon is a result of (((producers))) deciding what rap songs get promoted. They're pushing the most simplistic garbage they can find. It also applies to pop music in general, but to a lesser degree.

What's funny to me is that I'm reminded of this meme: what are birds singing about?

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(1) "I'm the best bird in the forest!" (2) "This is my tree! This is my territory!" (3) "I want fuck!"

This is the default state of nature. We have a drive to reproduce, and sexual reproduction often pits males against other males to compete for access to females - thus the bragging.

The only mental faculty capable of rising above this state is consciousness. But as I've said a few times in this thread, I don't think most blacks are conscious. If you aren't conscious, you kind of settle into this state where you follow base drives.

Here's my favorite example of "unconscious" music: Wait (The Whisper Song) by the Ying Yang Twins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAnXIIv5He8

I invite you to marvel at the intellectual prowess demonstrated by these

>You got a sexy-ass body, and your ass look
> Do you mind if I touch it, to see if it soft?

That's so bad - it's actually kind of impressive how bad it is. Try to picture in your mind the author sitting at his desk, composing those lyrics. For the first line, he wants to compliment the woman. He'd love to be poetic; to reach for some beautiful metaphor.

>"Shall I compare thee to a summer's day? Thou art more lovely and more temperate"

But lol no. He doesn't have the mental horsepower to conjure such prose. His thoughts can't go beyond "derrrr, I like sex. Derrrr, I like her body, it makes me want to have sex!"

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He has no words to describe her body. He doesn't have the vocabulary. "Your ass looks soft?" Umm, okay. Thanks? He knows no superlatives with which to amplify the sentiment, so he resorts to "sexy-ass" which is how he probably describes everything. "Sexy-ass legs" or "sexy-ass eyes" - this is his native language and yet, that's the best he can do.

Then the second line: "Do you mind if I touch it, to see if it's soft" - he's incapable of thinking or expressing the abstract concept of desire, much less love. Words like

>Her body every way is fed, with orient pearl, with ruby
>with marble white, with sapphire blue, yet soft in touch, and sweet in view.

are as intractable to him as advanced calculus. He's a fucking retard.

He rhymes "soft" with "soft" - like, at least fucking pick a word that rhymes with soft! Nah, just use the same word.

And then of course, the rest of the song is literally just

>Wait till you see my dick

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I'm pretty sure if you've been online for a long time you probably would have heard some guy in the comments section say "when you're sad you understand the lyrics"

Guess what, this is because barely anyone actually pays attention to what they're listening to they just pay attention to the melodies, beats and what not

No one pays attention to the lyrics my guy

Literally the entirety of rap music is like this. It's just words it doesn't matter if they make sense or not, people aren't there for poetry they're there for the music and the guy's voice

Who do you think is actually doing this poetry bullshit literally no one does

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>>4074
yeah, plenty of retarded black people, no disagreement there, but plenty of white people (e.g. Katy Perry) aren't much better

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this is literally a copypaste of this kiwifarms post https://kiwifarms.st/threads/african-american-appreciation-thread.65074/post-23369453
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>>4084
Nobody cares about the source. The information itself is what matters.
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>>4086
great news, our representative as arrived to make statements on behalf of everyone as to how everyone feels

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When they say "white people have no culture," what they mean by "culture" is "obnoxious behaviors and impulsive violence."
It's like when they say "spicy latina" or "fiery latina." Those words mean "poor impulse control."
That's what they think culture is! When you scream on the bus and stab people for stepping on your fresh jordans. Putting a mish mash of 99 cent spice blends from dollar general on your food.
Ballet, symphony, poetry, tradition, architecture... those are not "culture." "Culture" is when "DEY WILDIN'"

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modern black music, it's less about ego or vanity and more about the collage of survival.

like when someone's rap is just a patchwork of stolen soundbites, borrowed struggles from hip-hop's first black artists, now just rearranged like a ghost in the machine, what's left is the hum of nostalgia overlaid with something new but still trapped in the same cycle. not about being "the best," but about remembering. how long it took before anyone even called it theirs, and what they did with what was handed to them.

so yeah, "i'm the best" is the old ghost of jazz trumpets whispering in a studio, you hear it because you recognize it.

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>>4079
that "understand lyrics" trope ignores the rhythm, flow, and cultural nuance, lyrics are just the chorus, man. the real magic happens in the beats.
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>>11040

nuh uh bro that's why they call it “literary rap”
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>>4079
>"when you're sad you understand the lyrics"
Not even then, how often do you see someone in the comments ignore that the sad song they're listening to has nothing to do with their particular sadness? It's find to mix personal and impersonal miseries but they're clearly not even aware of it.

>I'm listening to "I was born with HIV and grew up in the system hence I have never been loved and it feels like I'm king midas, even people who say they love me flinch away from my touch" by Dua Lipa and it reminds me of how sad I was when my dog died and when my ex left me.

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>>4079

same shit same story but make it flow like a verse. 100% of modern baddness in hip-hop is just artists playing off that ego shit, ain't none of us was born with it tho.

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like how doe we even say that? what is the music telling us apart from this old corporate recycling? it feels like i've been hearing the same loops since 2018 at least, just rearranged in the studio

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woke vibes and self-importance is what this whole thing reduces to. just listen to a bad bachata track from Venezuela and compare it to a proper 1970s Nujabes album.

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But no one wants to talk about how much of this is just legacy brands milking the same shitty narrative until there's nothing left to say except more of the same.

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black metal is good imho

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Most black music is not even their own music, it is just stolen music from someone else and they just talk over it, because not only are they unable to make music, they are also unable to sing.
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>>12207
You mean sampling?

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>>12207
the beats used by mainstream rappers all sound the same. im not sure how people can listen to this unoriginal garbage and call it good.

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There is a few outliers , Jazz Addix - Oxygen ( Album ) Is something I can stand , usually I can't bare listening to anything rap anymore. I do agree with OP that the majority of black rap is built upon this , material wealth and being better than someone else.

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