Online debate content worsens the world through falsely presenting haggard screeching harpies as legitimate participants in discourse.
It's ragebait viral clipslop disguised as rhetorical debate. There's zero reason for anyone to be consuming takes through watching people talk.
The written word is infinitely faster, more efficient, more thoughtfully presented, and more cogent than any video of people arguing with each other. Memetics, even moreso. The only reason the Socratic verbal debate exists is because the medium of written language has never had the ease of presentation and consumption it does now in any other point in history.
Socratic debate is very close to being a delusional misstep in the nature of verbal combat. Its veracity is held together by the unstable and fleeting premise of operating within a sphere of learned mature peers who all agree to engage in rules of conduct. When the unwashed masses attempt to argue with each other, they succumb to the natural gravity of psychological warfare, attempting to crush opposing viewpoints as a default state and using every tool at their disposal to do so with zero desire to actually change their own viewpoints to arrive at a position of truth derived from logical argument.
This form of thought is actually quite natural to the human condition, and arguably could be superior in a context where it's approached honestly.
"I don't care what you have to say, I hate you and want you destroyed."
"You are my enemy."
"Your beliefs will stop existing the moment you do."
All of these are actually honest and valid takes, justified through actually destroying your opponent in a physical, psychological, financial, and spiritual capacity. They are the subconscious drivers of total warfare.
Yet, sensible people centuries ago decided society would be better off using peaceful methods to solve disagreements. This is a sound perspective, all the more justified when witnessing the consequences of violence within your own lifetime. This perspective is lost with time, replaced with generational cargo culting of traditions without the understanding of nuances which keep the system working as intended.
When these nuances are lost, the intention and therefore function of the system falls apart. The debate becomes a larp, a pretense of civility masking the ill intentions of outgroup instigators and their mindless drone peons easily manipulated into dedicated their entire lives to uphold a brainworm ideology programmed through good/bad aesthetic signalling.
When these nuances are lost, you welcome incongruities with reality and open yourself up to humiliation rituals. There's functionally zero reason as a man to allow yourself to be berated by a woman, let alone an ugly woman, let alone an ugly cunt with a sour face and venomous tone who solely concerns herself with the welfare of subhuman societal drains as a form of politically motivated civilizational suicide ideation.
Not that Bryan Johnson is implicitly right wing, I'm assuming he falls under that vague technocapitalist futurist gray category associated with TPOT and accelerationism. But in this specific engagement, he's framed as oppositional to the woman in front of him. Whether choosing to engage in political ideology or not, he's being attacked and now must defend himself.
In a just world, he could simply call her a hideous freak and question why a disgusting rude peasant has any right to question what he spends his own money on, regardless of its benefit to society.
In a just world, he could ask her why there's any value whatsoever in dumping money into the perpetual chaos of blackness that looms over civilized society despite decades, if not centuries of evidence suggesting that any form of welfare charity to this contingent would not only be wasted, but in fact harm society in the long run.
In a just world, he could simply humiliate her on camera and embarrass her through a verbal assault intended to make her come as close to humanly possible to killing herself, ridding the world of one less active virus.
But in the humiliation ritual that is the "online debate platform" he must pretend to hold dignity in giving calm mature answers while being constantly interrupted. Nothing is learned. Nothing is gained. Nobody's mind is changed. Wokescold marxists simply go "yass queen" and indignant chuds smirk and mock the hateclown.
Do not succumb to consuming debateslop on the internet. The verbal argument is a masturbatory practice. All debate online is a form of sophistry, solely dedicated to maintaining frame in front of an audience, including when I do it (I only do it specifically to harm people psychologically).
The only worthwhile debates that actually engage in expanding your conscious viewpoint occur when engaged in complete isolation with only one other participant who shares the same civility and dignity you do, and usually they have to be halfway close to you in the spectrum of ideology to actually convince you of something and reach anything more than a polite stalemate.
For men specifically, there is zero reason for you to ever argue with a woman that isn't your wife. And arguments with your wife are always nothingspats which should be navigated around, circumvented, and corrected in the same manner as if you were arguing with a child. They're make-believe verbal plays which signal a miscalibrated element of the relationship which often has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Misogynistic take? Maybe. The problem with women arguing with men that aren't their husbands is because women completely lack the context for conflict. When two men argue, there is the natural implication of violence looming over the interaction. This implication is made a mere shadow of itself through the many layers of law, social mores, and biologically inherited standards of conduct that men learn through the soft consequences of trial and error in childhood.
Women completely lack this context and operate recklessly because they have acclimated an undue comfort in the safe society men provide them. This has led to the arrogant spiteful tone you see before, a smug indignation from a specimen who has done absolutely nothing in life to warrant any authority whatsoever in expressing an opinion, let alone bludgeoning anyone with chidings on what they should or shouldn't do.
Every opinion a woman has ever had is either an expression of emotional self interest or the parroting of a man's opinion. They are creatures with no stake in their own existence beyond the foundation they are given by their fathers, brothers, and sexual partners. When they express themselves with hateful fervor, they do so in the poor imitation of a man. They attempt to convey authority but lack the cognizance to understand what power is or where it comes from, so it comes out as aggression.
This is a state of affairs which will one day be corrected, violently, by the thorns of desperate necessity. A certain moment in time will reveal degraded conditions in which the legal consequences for violence will no longer have the manpower or resources to be held consistently. Soon after, the desperation and exhaustion incurred from societal decay will follow, and through a combination of weariness and degenerated population, the social consequences of violence will too dissipate.
There will come a time, possibly in your lifetime, when the reality of violence will follow soon after any sort of conflict. If you are a woman, pay attention as best you can to the state of the society you live in. It may not be you, but your daughters or granddaughters who will have to deal with an open hand slap or an uppercut to the sternum after they've accosted a man in public in the manner you taught them.
It won't be polite lisping white millionaires who deliver these blows either, but rather the grime bred mud babies you once championed as poor little victims. In that moment, when the warm wet blood seeps down a nostril and the eyes swell with tears with the taste of iron in the palate, the victim will have no sense of irony in their punishment. They will be too young to remember who's mistakes they're paying for.
The written word is infinitely faster, more efficient, more thoughtfully presented, and more cogent than any video of people arguing with each other. Memetics, even moreso. The only reason the Socratic verbal debate exists is because the medium of written language has never had the ease of presentation and consumption it does now in any other point in history.
Socratic debate is very close to being a delusional misstep in the nature of verbal combat. Its veracity is held together by the unstable and fleeting premise of operating within a sphere of learned mature peers who all agree to engage in rules of conduct. When the unwashed masses attempt to argue with each other, they succumb to the natural gravity of psychological warfare, attempting to crush opposing viewpoints as a default state and using every tool at their disposal to do so with zero desire to actually change their own viewpoints to arrive at a position of truth derived from logical argument.
This form of thought is actually quite natural to the human condition, and arguably could be superior in a context where it's approached honestly.
"I don't care what you have to say, I hate you and want you destroyed."
"You are my enemy."
"Your beliefs will stop existing the moment you do."
All of these are actually honest and valid takes, justified through actually destroying your opponent in a physical, psychological, financial, and spiritual capacity. They are the subconscious drivers of total warfare.
Yet, sensible people centuries ago decided society would be better off using peaceful methods to solve disagreements. This is a sound perspective, all the more justified when witnessing the consequences of violence within your own lifetime. This perspective is lost with time, replaced with generational cargo culting of traditions without the understanding of nuances which keep the system working as intended.
When these nuances are lost, the intention and therefore function of the system falls apart. The debate becomes a larp, a pretense of civility masking the ill intentions of outgroup instigators and their mindless drone peons easily manipulated into dedicated their entire lives to uphold a brainworm ideology programmed through good/bad aesthetic signalling.
When these nuances are lost, you welcome incongruities with reality and open yourself up to humiliation rituals. There's functionally zero reason as a man to allow yourself to be berated by a woman, let alone an ugly woman, let alone an ugly cunt with a sour face and venomous tone who solely concerns herself with the welfare of subhuman societal drains as a form of politically motivated civilizational suicide ideation.
Not that Bryan Johnson is implicitly right wing, I'm assuming he falls under that vague technocapitalist futurist gray category associated with TPOT and accelerationism. But in this specific engagement, he's framed as oppositional to the woman in front of him. Whether choosing to engage in political ideology or not, he's being attacked and now must defend himself.
In a just world, he could simply call her a hideous freak and question why a disgusting rude peasant has any right to question what he spends his own money on, regardless of its benefit to society.
In a just world, he could ask her why there's any value whatsoever in dumping money into the perpetual chaos of blackness that looms over civilized society despite decades, if not centuries of evidence suggesting that any form of welfare charity to this contingent would not only be wasted, but in fact harm society in the long run.
In a just world, he could simply humiliate her on camera and embarrass her through a verbal assault intended to make her come as close to humanly possible to killing herself, ridding the world of one less active virus.
But in the humiliation ritual that is the "online debate platform" he must pretend to hold dignity in giving calm mature answers while being constantly interrupted. Nothing is learned. Nothing is gained. Nobody's mind is changed. Wokescold marxists simply go "yass queen" and indignant chuds smirk and mock the hateclown.
Do not succumb to consuming debateslop on the internet. The verbal argument is a masturbatory practice. All debate online is a form of sophistry, solely dedicated to maintaining frame in front of an audience, including when I do it (I only do it specifically to harm people psychologically).
The only worthwhile debates that actually engage in expanding your conscious viewpoint occur when engaged in complete isolation with only one other participant who shares the same civility and dignity you do, and usually they have to be halfway close to you in the spectrum of ideology to actually convince you of something and reach anything more than a polite stalemate.
For men specifically, there is zero reason for you to ever argue with a woman that isn't your wife. And arguments with your wife are always nothingspats which should be navigated around, circumvented, and corrected in the same manner as if you were arguing with a child. They're make-believe verbal plays which signal a miscalibrated element of the relationship which often has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Misogynistic take? Maybe. The problem with women arguing with men that aren't their husbands is because women completely lack the context for conflict. When two men argue, there is the natural implication of violence looming over the interaction. This implication is made a mere shadow of itself through the many layers of law, social mores, and biologically inherited standards of conduct that men learn through the soft consequences of trial and error in childhood.
Women completely lack this context and operate recklessly because they have acclimated an undue comfort in the safe society men provide them. This has led to the arrogant spiteful tone you see before, a smug indignation from a specimen who has done absolutely nothing in life to warrant any authority whatsoever in expressing an opinion, let alone bludgeoning anyone with chidings on what they should or shouldn't do.
Every opinion a woman has ever had is either an expression of emotional self interest or the parroting of a man's opinion. They are creatures with no stake in their own existence beyond the foundation they are given by their fathers, brothers, and sexual partners. When they express themselves with hateful fervor, they do so in the poor imitation of a man. They attempt to convey authority but lack the cognizance to understand what power is or where it comes from, so it comes out as aggression.
This is a state of affairs which will one day be corrected, violently, by the thorns of desperate necessity. A certain moment in time will reveal degraded conditions in which the legal consequences for violence will no longer have the manpower or resources to be held consistently. Soon after, the desperation and exhaustion incurred from societal decay will follow, and through a combination of weariness and degenerated population, the social consequences of violence will too dissipate.
There will come a time, possibly in your lifetime, when the reality of violence will follow soon after any sort of conflict. If you are a woman, pay attention as best you can to the state of the society you live in. It may not be you, but your daughters or granddaughters who will have to deal with an open hand slap or an uppercut to the sternum after they've accosted a man in public in the manner you taught them.
It won't be polite lisping white millionaires who deliver these blows either, but rather the grime bred mud babies you once championed as poor little victims. In that moment, when the warm wet blood seeps down a nostril and the eyes swell with tears with the taste of iron in the palate, the victim will have no sense of irony in their punishment. They will be too young to remember who's mistakes they're paying for.
So is the exchange of ideas worthless? Should the search for truth through discussion be forgone?
No, of course not. You're just looking in the wrong place for it. The modern philosopher exists as he has since philosophy's birth: The Forums.
Ideas worth discussing are all all propagated by forum posters, and places like Reddit & Twitter have always been a band-aid solution to the next great forum. The forum and the groupchat are where you go to learn something or create something, the meme is just the hyperdistillation of ideas built in those places.
The only thing you'll gain from people speaking on camera is getting blackpilled and pissed off. If you think the physiognomy check is a crucial element of accepting someone's ideas, well you're just half right and half wrong.
While it is ideal to gain perfect enlightenment from perfect people, perfect people don't engage in rhetoric and language to begin with. The very nature of trying to understand truth from information is flawed because language itself is a parasite, a realm of neurotic symbol magic that exceeds our biological capacity. Perfect people lead by example, they are beings of action who have never had to convince anyone of anything in their lives.
The anonymous poster is the king of rhetoric because he forgoes his identity for the sake of the topic itself, and his only flaw is if he betrays that principle through vanity or carelessness and becomes doxxed into mundanity.
If you want your greatest philosophers to be charismatic, look great on camera, and have good verbal cadence, you're just asking for a world of sophist theater queers who primp and preen for livestreams and video production. That's a world we already live in and it's gotten us nowhere.
No, of course not. You're just looking in the wrong place for it. The modern philosopher exists as he has since philosophy's birth: The Forums.
Ideas worth discussing are all all propagated by forum posters, and places like Reddit & Twitter have always been a band-aid solution to the next great forum. The forum and the groupchat are where you go to learn something or create something, the meme is just the hyperdistillation of ideas built in those places.
The only thing you'll gain from people speaking on camera is getting blackpilled and pissed off. If you think the physiognomy check is a crucial element of accepting someone's ideas, well you're just half right and half wrong.
While it is ideal to gain perfect enlightenment from perfect people, perfect people don't engage in rhetoric and language to begin with. The very nature of trying to understand truth from information is flawed because language itself is a parasite, a realm of neurotic symbol magic that exceeds our biological capacity. Perfect people lead by example, they are beings of action who have never had to convince anyone of anything in their lives.
The anonymous poster is the king of rhetoric because he forgoes his identity for the sake of the topic itself, and his only flaw is if he betrays that principle through vanity or carelessness and becomes doxxed into mundanity.
If you want your greatest philosophers to be charismatic, look great on camera, and have good verbal cadence, you're just asking for a world of sophist theater queers who primp and preen for livestreams and video production. That's a world we already live in and it's gotten us nowhere.
Uh, yeah OP, that's an interesting topic, but I had to look at Cute(tm) to recover from seeing that ugly sassy roastie. I'll share some with anyone who needs it.
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