There is no such thing as 'removing telemetry from Windows'

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You can't disable telemetry in Windows or macOS. Quite literally not possible. Microsoft literally ignores your toggles, hardcodes tracking into the kernel, and silently turns it back on after every major update. Do you think Apple and Microsoft (Palantir, NSA/CIA/FBI etc.) are so low iq and stupid that they can't go around some users "debloat" and "disable" toggles? Of course they assume people will try all these things.

You will get an MSA hwid which DOES finger print your machine. This is a required step of the windows process and it will spit out telemetry that you can't stop (yes there is in fact telemetry in the kernel). No I don't work there anymore, yes I worked in WDG (iykyk), yes I worked on telemetry, yes the amount of identitfiable info they collect on you is massive, no the detelemetry tools don't stop it, at best they limit it to a minimum.

I cannot stress this enough, there is not a single "private" version of Windows on the market. If you are using it, you are giving them data of a personal nature, it is not necessarily information about you as a person, but from your machine you can deduce personal traits.

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That's true, but I try not to make perfect the enemy of good when it comes to people wanting to have better online privacy. Just getting people to switch off of Google Chrome and Google Search is like pulling teeth. If someone can't use Linux or BSD for whatever reason, an enterprise version of Windows (ex. Windows 10 IOT LTSC Enterprise) and disabling telemetry or using a debloat script is your next best bet. Does Micro$oft still collect telemetry? Yes, but like you said, you're minimizing it. Plus, Micro$oft has less of an incentive to be super invasive in their enterprise customers' privacy because that's where their bread and butter is. They probably do still spy on people with enterprise licenses, but it's nowhere near as insane as crap end users have to deal with.
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>If someone can't use Linux or BSD for whatever reason
Then they are the victim of their own ignorance. Even if I needed to run some software that only works on Windows and using it under Wine or virtual machine is either impossible or unusable then I will power up another computer or laptop and do what I need there, and never connect it to the internet.
>Does Micro$oft still collect telemetry? Yes, but like you said, you're minimizing it.
You suggesting just eating less shit. In the end, you still ate shit, just not the same amount as you did previously.
When agreeing on using proprietary commercial capitalist software that doesn't respect your rights on privacy, treats you like a product or a cow that needs to be milked, and actively harms and sabotages your interactions with the computer that you bought for your own money, and giving you less and less control, you get what you deserve.

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