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I don't care. I stopped caring about adhering to this maniacal ideology revolving technology and the Internet. It is unrealistic. The purists do not want to put in any effort to build anything.
I have been the sole builder.
>ive never seen a forum let alone a site do more than 3 major changes in under a year
Because I am the sole builder, I am not afraid to experiment. I will continue to experiment until I can settle on something that actually moves us closer to achieving our goals and is satisfactory.
The problem with only allowing posts that are "quality" is that "quality" is extremely subjective. Cyberix had a "quality" posting rule last year when the default layout was the minimalist text layout and it only pissed people off to an endless degree. Not everyone wants to constantly effortpost all the time and that's something that has to be accepted. Even you got pissed at us because we deleted a shitpost of yours that you posted under Anonymous. So, top-down, purist moderation fails. It's subjective, it's unreliable, and even its advocates hated it when it was applied to them.
As for the site itself, the problem with the previous layout was that it was too hacky and forced you to click an endless amount of times in order to get to a single thread. You had to click back and forth between links in order to navigate the site. That pisses me the fuck off. The site looked and worked like shit whenever I was to try to load it in a old browser or on a small screen. God forbid I need to load this site on my phone or try to introduce people I know to this site on their phones.
The new BBS layout has fixed all of these issues in one fell swoop.
The majority of my response to your post and the other posts in this thread alongside the active posters in the chatrooms will consist of a polished set of replies I made on my phone. I am reposting it here as a reply to you because I wrote this after I saw your posts and is directed at everyone who is interested:
> > the forum could actually flourish and thrive
> I have the same idea. just hibernate the forum for good and leave it until we just have more people to populate the forum with interesting stuff
I have always been saying that the forum currently serves to be a vector for long term discussion and archival of things we find interesting from elsewhere on the web. Forum activity has always been incredibly low compared to the chatrooms. It makes no sense for the forums to constantly be at the forefront of the Cyberix page when nobody cares about forums in 2026. RO0K says the chatrooms are cancer and acts like banning random people is going to fix it all and not just lower activity any further.
I have given up trying to appease people from across the spectrum. The zoomers don't care because they're mindless idiots who are accustomed to their technological slavery and ENJOY being abused by their handlers. The situation is similar with 4channers. They refuse to leave. They can't. For reasons, of course. They really are there forever.
The one thing I keep saying that people are ignoring is that I am designing the entirety of Cyberix to function as an isolated Internet node. The goal is to be capable of handling the concept of the people's only major usage of the Internet to go through Cyberix, including my own. One day, the only major website I shall visit, maybe outside of other websites that are affiliated, related to, or originate from Cyberix in some way shape or form is Cy-X.net.
I find it funny that there are people who have been complaining about us for the past year but have never made any substantial shit of their own. They have not produced anything meaningful. No unique projects or ideas spawned and developed here in public. No OC. In reality, it has all come from me. There are no builders here or anywhere else in these public alternative tech spaces. I only am finding variants of CONSUMER.
The network effect has knocked out the public Internet into a collection of a few omnipresent social media networks. What remains is porn, LARP and obscure groups of people who live in private cliques.
People are still complaining about the site change. The previous layout did not work well on smaller resolutions. It used nasty hacks to get that sidebar working. It's not a good look for the site's front page to consist of the same randomized pool of featured threads and articles and the Recent Activity page displaying posts from a week ago. It did not work on Netscape or IE6.
The new layout works on Internet Explorer 3, now.
> It doesn't even have a name it's literally called "other"
Because I have always said the forum is a place for long form discussion and archival, I am now restructuring it to force that approach by making it so sharing links that you find elsewhere, or GOOD SHIT that you or someone else made and discussing them is the point the forum serves. And then, "other" is a place for arbitrary discussion.
The hierarchy USED to look like this:
(*) Cyberix Message System
|-- (*) recent-threads
|-- [#] cyberix-team [locked]
|-- (-) cyberix-announce (2)
|-- (o) cyberix (112)
|-- (o) public (335)
|-- (o) news (57)
|-- (o) software (131)
`-- (*) games (29)
People only used #public. #public was the dumping ground.
Same situation with META and TECH being unused but IMBALANCED being the dumping ground.
So, I have stopped caring. We'll see what I do next.
The newcomer sees "DEAD", when they see small numbers and low statistics because the Internet has conditioned them to require hyper stimulation everywhere they go. Most if not all Alt-Tech spaces with an actually sizable group of people have a Discord server now.
> >the remaining competent mod left ages ago after the owner went full AI worshipping among other micro dramas
>remember that whole deleting cyberix discord debacle? fucking took months for you pull the life support on that trash even after multiple people complained about it.
R0OK and many others wanted the Discord bridge gone because the people there were "shit". Then they wanted me to purge the chatrooms of people they didn't like. Then, after I did nothing, it became "PLEAAAASEEE get rid of the funny AI bot it's SPYING on our PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE CHATROOM that was went unused for 2 days straight before it came here.... PLEASE KILL THE BOT, THIS IS NOW THE REASON WHY I DON'T USE THIS PLACE... EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T HERE BEFORE ANYWAY..."
Fuck off with that. I am getting tired of this wasteful purism. It has only been a detriment to this site. None of you have made anything worthwhile outside of maybe a few replies to a thread where we yet again discuss an arbitrary topic and have an arbitrary thought and opinion on it.
OH MY GODDDD I LOVE HAVING A REALLY COMPLEX AND IN-DEPTH OPINION ON AN IDEA THAT I DON'T ACTUALLY BOTHER TO PARTICIPATE IN OUTSIDE OF TYPING IT HERE :^) I WILL HOWEVER, NOT PUT THIS SAME EFFORT INTO... MAKING ANYTHING THAT ISN'T A BIG FUCKING WALL OF TEXT IN RESPONSE TO YET ANOTHER "OH MY GOD GUYS THE INTERNET IS SO FAKE AND GAY. IM GONNA GO INNAWOODS!!! LMAO!!! UNCLE TED!!! BUT IN REALITY I AM GOING TO DO ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING BECAUSE I AM TOO CREATIVELY STARVED TO EVEN BUILD A FUCKING CABIN. I FUCKING HATE WINDOWS, BUT I WILL HAPPILY INSTALL STEAM ON MY WAYLAND DESKTOP BECAUSE GOD BLESS GAYBEN HE CAN LOOK AT MY LOLICON HENTAI FOLDERS OH GOD LOLICON HENTAI ToT GUISE 3DpD AMIRITE??? LOL XDDD OH GOD OH GOD HOW DARE THESE FUCKING NORRRRRMIES SPEAK OUT AGAINST ME MASTURBATING TO DRAWINGS? THEY JUST DON'T GET IT... PUSSY FAGGOT RETARD... GO BACK TO YOUR SAFE SPACES.. ON SOCIAL MEDIA>.. IF YOU DONT LIKE MY LOLICON HENTAI. I HATE NIGGERS, TND AMIRITE GUISE? BUT I WON'T EVER EVER STOP LISTENING TO MUSIC MADE BY THEM OR PLAYING VIIIDEEEEO GAMES MADE BY THEM OR WATCHING MOOOOVIIIIEEES THAT WERE MADE BY THEM AND CONTAIN THEM... GET THESE FUCKING NORMALFAGS OUT OF MY EXTENSIBLE MESSAGING AND PRESENCE PROTOCOL MULTI USER CHAT NOW NOW NOW!!!!
OH, WHEN WILL MAGIC INTERNET WIZARD NERD GIVE US OUR INNANET FREEDUMZ BECAUSE WE'RE FEMININE MOTHERFUCKERS WHO CAN'T DO ANYTHING AND WILL HAPPILY GET ON OUR KNEES AND SUCK CORPO COCK BUT PRETEND NOT TO AND INSTEAD WRITE ANGRY POSTS ON THE INTERNET WHENEVER THEY INEVITABLY DECIDE TO FUCK WITH THEIR USERBASE FOR LULZ?
Holy shit. It's LARP all around. Anyway:
The purists who left Cyberix have not made anything recognizable from far away. What do I find whenever I search for a project or a website and community that IS active and might have people who make things??? A fucking Discord server. A subreddit. A Twitter account. Oh. Alright, Now that's hilarious. Any project that wants to be serious will have atleast one of these things and that's just the way it is.
> > No unique projects or ideas spawned and developed here in public.
> wrong. wurzel was making his own minecraft but we haven't heard of him in a while. there's just not enough people, yet alone real makers, or even "uniqure great creators"
The real makers are all contained inside of social media and Discord servers. Do any of you see the problem yet? How about a workaround? No?
The people who DO build and know about and want to pursue the free and open Internet and get away from centralized hellholes have already hidden themselves in their own personal burrows on website domains that you can only get to by pure accident or by knowing someone who knows another guy.
Everyone else is inside the social media bubble.
I have learned that people here in these kinds of spaces (alt-tech, alt-chan, "indie-web, old-web") have an unhealthy amount of ideological purity for the very little they do to actually propagate it correctly. All these punks do is participate in flamewars targeted at anything that doesn't meet their arbitrary standards. I would consider myself a holder of heavy ideological purity but I am not afraid to experiment or actually put it to the test and verify it's validity in the landscapes we find ourselves in now.
There is nothing inherently wrong with having a Discord server in order to attract people to the Network. When you think of Cyberix you should be thinking of its creations, projects, and unique community, not "LOL THEY USE IRC. XMPP. MUMBLE!!!! OH MY GOD. THEIR WEBSITE IS SO FUCKING RETRO OH MY GOD"!
It is a vector for communication. Cyberix should be branching out and providing multiple vectors. If one has a lot people and it starts to go bad, then the fact that alternative vectors exist and it's already been subconsciously shoved into their psyche that there's a fledgling community they can hop to once Discord finally starts to decay prevents an arbitrary stifling of otherwise perfectly welcome growth and contribution in the first place.
Cyberix's front page has been the Webchat. That is a strategic decision. It is more active and requires less thought to contribute to. As a result we have had occasional waves of great discussions come from webchatters. The gate to entry is less complicated than making a new forum thread. This is a natural evolution from adding SSH chat. Now you can just chat immediately in your web browser. We have noticed increased activity in the chatrooms as a result of this.
Turning Cyberix into yet another mega secret ultra Puritan secret clique will not grow it. I am being realistic now and I am seeking a middle way.
A large chunk of you people hate phoneposting arbitrarily but I just made all of these posts from my phone and you probably wouldn't have thought to guess that if I didn't tell you about it beforehand. This is yet another example of the worthless ideological purity that I am beginning to despise. What makes you different from the nostalgia fagging zoomers when you:
>A: yearn for LE OLD INTERNET
>B: but do ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING to improve the situation?
You don't need to code in order to MAKE SOMETHING GOOD. Holy shit, what do any of you do on a daily basis? Do you engage in ANYTHING creative? Yes? Post that fucking shit. OpenFische is a GREAT EXAMPLE of what I'm looking to see from non-coders.
I am beginning to prefer pragmatic strategies. I will absolutely make a fucking Discord server because I recognize some people have accumulated some kind of personal debt that prevents them from leaving that platform. They might not have been aware of alternative protocols before because of how FUCKED the Internet is. Alright, fair. That can be done. And there shouldn't be anything wrong with that, because it's just another platform that happens to be bridged together with the rest of Cyberix.
>Discord is a plague that should be exterminated
I agree, however, I don't agree.
Not bridging Discord to Cyberix will not contribute to Discord's demise.
>purists are everywhere in this part of the internet, i don't know how you didn't despise it already
I tolerated and understood it for quite some time but I realize that these people like to say a lot of shit but then do Absolutely Fucking Nothing.
Kouya/Myrd has a website of some kind where he ALSO hosts services and has a forum which has had 5 new threads within the last three months.. and that's kind of it. Look at DigDeeper's page and you'll see that Cyberix is the only fucking link on that site where there appears to be a semi-active community and a tangible set of goals attached to it.
>yes 4cuck threads gotta be heckin preserved despite already being preserved elsewhere. we are reinventing the wheel here
The 4channel list exists because I don't want to use 4chan's website natively. I am fine with copy-pasting 4chan threads here that are GOOD. The Internet is public and free. Cyberix already is Anonymous and most people here are familiar with 4chan. A good 4chan thread is made by Anonymous therefore Anonymous is free to continue that thread elsewhere. I don't care if Archives already have it. Ghostposting is irrelevant
The builders who are already aware of the alternative web have already resigned themselves to their burrows. Everyone else is still inside the social media bubble.
Therefore, if Cyberix wishes to attract builders and bring more people in and onboard them to our set of beliefs and goals then a compromise will have to be made where Cyberix establishes itself on mainstream websites in an effort to bring new blood in more efficiently.
R0OK, Kouya and the others have abandoned the Network for reasons that all simplify down to not following the ideological purity hard enough. They do not appear to recognize the bigger picture, or properly understand the current landscape of the Internet. I am going to adapt and fucking experiment instead of doing absolutely Fucking Nothing.
The purism only works for small sekrit clubs that don't intend on making or showing anything off. It really does only work under specific circumstances. You cannot have a public space that creates and propagates OC while isolating yourself. Whatever creativity the purists had in 'em is gone. Take a look at "Heyuri". Le old four chan, guise! LULZ! DESU DESU POOLS CLOSED YOTSUBA INTERN

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>it's all just porn and larp
It seems like alternative technology spaces and Doing Absolutely Fucking Nothing is an extremely prevalent combo that I can't stop finding. The purists have it all wrong, and that's why altchans are always dead. They have nothing to offer but "LOL. WE Are Not Four Chan."
"We. Um. Like. QUALITY POSTS! Please post Quality Here Guys!!! Quality Quality Quality! On our /B/ Board. LOL XD RANDUMB! Am I Right, Ayynons? Get it? AYY LMAO! OUR High Quality Four Chan The Chan Ouf Four Four Oh Not Them WE Are Not THem We ARe a Different Number, or Actually FUck That We are now actually a different WORD - Chan See? Suffix Chan Number Chan Ohhhh fuuuuuckkkk MY FOUR Anonymous ANonymity We are ANonymous Fear us We are LE Four Chan But BETTER because we are the 777th Chan to deploy VICHAN And that makes us Unique because 777 GET!!!!!!!!!!"
"Join our IRC server! Our Four Alternative Chan IRC Server! Yes, We are Very Unique and oOriginal. please Check out Our WEBRING of 750 Other Alternative Four Chans who Are Not The Same Fucking Shit Over and Over Again"
DON'T WORRY GUYS, WE WILL DO FUCKING NOTHING and EVERYTHING will magically COLLAPSE AND THEY WILL COME. The people who have been stuck posting technologically impressive creations on Twitter will come to our 12 user shackcabin IN NO TIME!
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>lol that hasn't been the case for a long time, nobody produces or develop anything and arguments are strawmans and one-liners. there is a few gems here and there but unfortunately buried beyond heaps of fucking trash
>nobody produces or develop anything
The Internet purists can't seem to build anything. That is what I have observed. The builders are on the other side, shrouded in illusion. The roadmap is clear to me.
You cannot have a perfect, pure, isolated fortress from day one, a place unsullied by any contact with the corporate web unless you already have a group of people who are all willing to WORK in order to maintain it and keep it lively. We are not in that situation. We will reach out, pull people in, and only then will we consider shutting the gates.
I want to actually achieve something. My condolences. Everybody outside of your little cliques thinks you're fucking retarded, and now that I've had experience with both sides of the spectrum, I have yet again come to the conclusion that I must pursue the middle way.