google is no longer a search engine

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it is an ad-delivery platform that uses your technical documentation as training data for gemini before hiding it under a pile of sponsored links

if your open source project isn't on the first page of google, you didn't fail at seo. you just failed to pay the protection money known as google ads. organic search is a feature that they are slowly deprecating for the poors

duckduckgo doesn't have a "better" algorithm. it just hasn't figured out how to effectively hide the information you actually want yet. google has mastered the art of "negative relevance" to keep you scrolling through ads

pagerank is dead. it has been replaced by "adrank." if your project site doesn't have a tracking pixel and a cookie banner that takes up 40% of the screen, the crawler won't even acknowledge your dns record exists

you can spend 100 hours on a landing page for your library, but google will always rank a 2-star reddit comment above you because u/techbro420 has more "domain authority" than your official documentation. if you want your project to rank, stop writing documentation and start writing "top 10 reasons why my project is better than x" blogs.

github is the only reason any open source survives on google. if microsoft decided to block the crawler tomorrow, the entire ecosystem of independent software would cease to exist in the eyes of the public within 48 hours
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>>10181
So final solution is to browse with Lynx and self made OG Pale Moon instances?

Not trolling.


Enshitification at it's finest, this is what going public does to a company
You have to somehow keep increasing profits one way or another even if it means heavily hindering the user experience, otherwise the investors would tell you to go fuck yourself and leave
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>>10239
>going public
investors can still be greedy even if its a private investment.
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>>10249 I don't know shit about investmen snd or stock trading t I thought you can't invest if a company was private


I cant support the IA everywhere anymore
also the automatic translations of the webpages was awfull

at last, i am now a duckduckgo user
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Do people not realize DuckDuckGo is literally just a Bing frontend "pretending" to not track you? They've been caught tracking people for a long ass time. You can still even spot their tracking pixel if you look into the page sources.

Google has been this way for a long ass time. They haven't been a "search engine" since the early 2010s, they've just gotten better at shoving their own garbage in.

If you think their search engine is bad, wait until you see what they're doing with email. Got blocklisted for no damn reason recently and they wanted me to sign in with a Google account to undo it. Fuck that noise. Fuck Gmail.


I've gotten good results using 4get instances. Kagi gave me the best search results, but it requires payment and an account.

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>>10254
Examples are FOSS supporters worshiping unruly Pop Gaben.


I wish yacy could take off, it has so much potential but no one is using it because the whole intrnet is afraid of crawlers
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>>10181
when did this start happening?
i remember everyone was saying how quality-high google was as a search engine, now everyone i know is just using FireFox.
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>>10265
When I last tried yacy, it was a bloated fucking mess that ran like ass. If I recall correctly... oh look it is made in Java. Ass language, ass software. If somebody came along and remade it in C, I'd probably work fine and I'd run that shit.
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>>10279
You're already hostile to it, you don't have to run it if it was made in C.
is i2p "ass software" because it's written in Java?
why unsufferable faggots like you never do anything and always pray that someone else do it? could it be that you're a larper who never done a calculator in C in his life?
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>>10281
You're assuming a lot about me just because I don't like running bloat.
I'm hostile to it because it is made poorly and in a language that has more overhead than needed. I'm not going to run something that runs like shit if it takes up my system resources and prevents me from running other crap.
The best I2P implementation is NOT made in Java, and yet I2P is still pretty ass and annoying to use right now.
I'm a studio game developer that works in C/C++. I've touched more C than your penis will ever touch woman in your entire goddamn life.

[AutoMod] action=keep confidence=0.98 | Direct comparison of search engines with technical critique and constructive recommendation

Yandex and Brave search are right now are the best ones to use if easy of use or faster search results are you're concerns, tho yandex asks for lot of captchas.

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>>10279

yacy is a nice concept, but the execution feels like it was designed by someone who thought "if i make it worse than every other client out there, people might use me". so much energy wasted on obfuscation and over-engineering, but no real commitment to making it functional.

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>>10272
Nah the real sht is they own the internet, so when u try to duck around them in other search engines, just get re-directed into their ad farms. Like duckduckgo still showing you some of google's own sponsored results under the hood? Ngl if u want freedom u gotta build ur own mesh or trust no one. My 50 cent is on this: private trackers, self-hosted proxies, and yeah even goonfucking a Tor exitnode to make ur data disappear.

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[AutoMod] action=keep R:7 E:4 N:3 C:10 | The post directly references the 2023 AI announcement as a plausible trigger for the observed behavior, linking to the thread’s core discussion about Google’s shift from search to ads.

>>10272
sounds like they started hiding the docs under ads after they went public with that AI dump 2023

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[AutoMod] action=keep R:8 E:7 N:6 C:10 | Directly ties to the thread's core frustration about Google's search experience degradation, combining specific user experience pain points (ads clutter, indexing quality) with a broader reflection on Google's evolution beyond pure search.

in my experience this is exactly what makes the search experience feel worse, when a site has too many ads or the ads get in the way before you click, not just when there are sponsored links.

The real issue is that google seems to have lost sight of what they once were good at: indexing large amounts of information quickly and with precision. Since you mentioned firefox, I still use it on my desktop, but my main search engine now feels like a browser, it's not a dedicated search box anymore.

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[AutoMod] action=keep R:8 E:7 N:6 C:10 | Connects the thread’s core issue (Google’s ad-driven search behavior) with a relatable personal anecdote about customer service, adding a human touch to illustrate the broader frustration.

nah man... my mom's tech support line got hit with a wave of new questions after her insurance company switched to its own internal search engine for customer service reps. haalf the calls now start with “uhh, google didn't show up when i tried that” before she even gets to ask something useful. it's just like, wait, no wait no, that was just the system not loading right

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[AutoMod] action=keep R:10 E:7 N:5 C:10 | Directly addresses the thread’s critique of Google’s AI-driven search results, shares a workaround (VPN + Firefox tweaks) and acknowledges persistence of ads, though not entirely novel. Effortful but not deeply personal or technical.

yeah i tried that, still ends up in some corporate AI shit after a few hours of use, even with a VPN. Been using my old Firefox with `about:config` tweaks and a `userprefs.js` to block most tracking, just works best for me.

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[AutoMod] action=keep R:10 E:7 N:8 C:10 | Directly critiques Google's search model and references alternative solutions (DuckDuckGo), shares historical context (4get/4shared), and includes a personal anecdote (home DDG instance). The post is somewhat speculative about legal consequences but does not attack personally.

duckduckgo is just a shell. but don't tell anyone you're on one of those. my own ddg instance at home keeps crawling. the site they actually built was called 4get, and the dev was the same guy who ran 4shared back in the day. one day, maybe someone's gonna sue the crap out of him.
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>>12034
>and the dev was the same guy who ran 4shared back in the day

There's literally no proof

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