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4G and 5G to blame for low battery life

[lounge] Anonymous @ 2026-07-11 13:48:50 [#7309] [43 replies]

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For a long time I used one of those early "modern dumbphones", the battery life on idle was unironically around 1 month.

When it broke and I started looking for a new one, I bought like 5 different ones trying to get one with similar battery life, but to no avail. Such a phone just doesn't seem to exist anymore, the absolute maximum is about 2 weeks no matter what phone you buy. At least that's what I thought.

I started looking into why this is the case, and turns out it's because of 4G and 5G networks, the phone has to do much more work to operate on those. You can prove this by not putting in a sim card so it can't connect to a network, the battery will miraculously last for an entire month again. But as soon as you let it connect to the network, the battery life plummets to 1-2 weeks.
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 13:51 [#7312] [report]
>>21830
use dumbphone for 5 years and i agree. You win some you lose some. Not all old stuff is bad and not all new stuff is good.
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 13:52 [#7313] [report]
>>21830
Correct especially 5G it's distance is shit and it if you have bad signal it basically overclocks the shit out of the chip to stay connected and creates a ton of heat and use a ton of battery. I would say compared to wifi it drains like 5x faster on a bad 5g connection

Idk what your point is though this is just how it is now, try to download as much stuff as you can offline or bring battery banks/solar panel chargers
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 14:01 [#7320] [report]
>>21832
You don't need these networks when the phone isn't being used, and if you use a dumbphone you will never need them. So your battery life is being halved for no reason and you can't choose an older network even if you wanted to.
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 14:04 [#7326] [report]
>>21830
>But as soon as you let it connect to the network, the battery life plummets to 1-2 weeks.
no... shit?
it needs to be connected to those networks because thats what a phone is
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 14:05 [#7328] [report]
My pixel is unusable outside of WiFi because the battery gods down like crazy
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 14:06 [#7329] [report]
>>21833
That's because we live in a society. You must do bullshit you don't like because we are in the same boat. Old stuff gets turned off because "muh...efficiency" "we must save money!" "its to expensive to keep it running!"
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 14:06 [#7330] [report]
>>21834
Read the post again.
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 14:10 [#7332] [report]
>>21833
I am able to choose older networks in settings but yeah I usually just keep it on airplane mode unless I need connection. My phone is pretty efficient though and I can probably get 8 hours out of a bad 5g connection with constant screen use. Batteries are at least getting a lot better. Where I am there's actually a 2G tower somewhere according to my signal which I have been connected to multiple times.
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 14:10 [#7334] [report]
>>21836
5g data is crazy and theres a reason we won't see 6g ever. Transmitting that much data at such a high rate is crazy. You can be driving 300mph down the interstate and still get a reliable 5g signal. Shit you can be in a fucking airplane and still get signal.
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 18:28 [#7635] [report]
>>21832
i had a 4g dumbphone for a while, it's fucking retarded how the battery lasts a fucking WEEK normally, but the moment you're in an area with poor/no signal, the cunt will die within a couple of HOURS. apparently that's a feature and there's no real way to turn it off.
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 22:47 [#7934] [report]
?
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 22:51 [#7945] [report]
>>21830
Maybe if unremovable glowfag apps were trying to phone home all day the battery wouldn't die so hard
Anonymous · 2026-07-11 22:58 [#7964] [report]
They're using your phone as a signal repeater.
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 00:00 [#8033] [report]
>>21839
6G is mostly about polishing features of 5G at this point. People thought it would be about even wider band, Thz (lol) communication, or faster than nyquist but the standards bodies seem to have come to the conclusion that no one cares and 6G should mostly just specify satellite integration into terrestrial cellular networks and better low latency connections for commercial or industrial use. There will be absolutely 0 difference for your phone for performance. The only new hardware that will be required is really good timing and phase shift recovery chips for better cellphone to satellite communication.

This all being said as of LTE+ or LTE A Pro there is basically 0 meaningful performance gain and as a other anon noted 5G rapes your battery. Despite 5G covering all the same lower frequency bands LTE does and using them the 5G core wants to keep your phone on the 4-6Ghz usually which is much worse on battery.
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 04:27 [#8252] [report]
>>21830
4g and 5g is a weapon btw
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 04:28 [#8253] [report]
>>21844
uh ok sure
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 06:04 [#8321] [report]
>>21830
>dad calls over 2G
>he just wants to talk about some shit

>dad calls over 4G
>holy shit are you in hospital, dad?
I hate modern telephony. It was convenient to know exactly where in public transport an out of town friend was while looking for your commieblock. Now all background noise is filtered.
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 06:30 [#8327] [report]
>>21832
>I would say compared to wifi it drains like 5x faster on a bad 5g connection
5x is maybe a stretch, but I also had a hunch for quite some time now that mobile data consumes noticeably more energy vs wifi
but because I use wifi at home and mobile data when I'm out, I think the display energy consumption increases as well due to the increased screen brightness
is there any scientific-ish data where such external factors are isolated, and we're really looking at wifi vs 5g power usage?
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 08:03 [#8353] [report]
>>21830
take meds schizo
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 10:41 [#8375] [report]
>>21849
5g is bad and we dont need meds where we're headed
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 15:27 [#8466] [report]
this is a known issue. also consider that your phone calls home to update shit automatically and do other stuff... data transfers also use a lot of battery. then there is the display: the brighter, the more energy the phone uses, so lower screen brightness.
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 15:51 [#8487] [report]
>>21847
you still got 2G?
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 15:57 [#8491] [report]
>>21830
I have airplane mode on unless I'm expecting to be contacted which, because I'm an incel FREAK, is not very often
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 19:03 [#8579] [report]
>>21844
>cell to satellite
Bleak. Sometimes it really does feel like its over.
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 19:05 [#8580] [report]
>>21830
>OP figures out how wireless battery powered networks work
They grow up so fast... but you still need to be 18+ to post here kiddo.
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 19:07 [#8582] [report]
You'd be surprised how little drain an android phone uses with no radios at all.

My ancient shitty $150 tablet running a android 13 rom only drains like 2% per day on standby. When you use wifiax router with like a 350ms beacon interval with dtim 1 and twt support wifi standby is nothing
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 19:09 [#8584] [report]
>>21854
It will maybe send SMS-tier data over sattalites when you are away from big cities, it's not like you were invisible to satelites before. Radio heatmaps were a thing for a while.
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 19:09 [#8586] [report]
>>21850
"Medicine" is such horse shit.
>doesnt know why it works
>can cause serious harm or death
>considered absolutely necessary
Oh but if you dont like it we'll call you crazy and force you to have it.
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 19:11 [#8588] [report]
>>21857
Its more about the inability to escape it. You can't even go innawoods anymore without the internet and the people fused with it around you anymore.
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 20:11 [#8647] [report]
Wi-Fi is the most power-efficient option.i keep my Pixel 10 Pro XL running GrapheneOS on airplane mode and WiFi only. I only use cellular network when needed. WiFi calling isn't secure and uses IPsec tunnel or an ePDG tunnel and that shit ain't private or secure
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 20:16 [#8650] [report]
>>21844
>5G destroys phones
trvke nvke
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 20:23 [#8655] [report]
I mean yes? 5G and 4G are radio communication methods, they require turning the phone into an antennae and pumping energy into it to broadcast radio waves. The fuck you expect?
Anonymous · 2026-07-12 20:26 [#8658] [report]
>>21841
2g/3g is phased out in some cuntry
Anonymous · 2026-07-13 00:12 [#8750] [report]
does simless display reception quality indicator
Anonymous · 2026-07-13 01:03 [#8763] [report]
>>21830
5G is actually worse then 4G.
But it's real purpose isn't communication. The best place to hide something nefarious is in plain sight with a cloak of harmlessness or being useful in some way.
Anonymous · 2026-07-13 01:08 [#8765] [report]
Why does my smartphone that does nothing but sit on my desk not being used for anything at all run out of juice in 2 days even though my battery checker app says it should last 2 weeks and never tells me anything drains the battery
Anonymous · 2026-07-13 01:31 [#8773] [report]
I have a second phone
a samsung j5 2016
i only need it for the occasional call
i put it on maximum battery saving mode and it lasts for 200 hours
i wish my main phone could be like thi sbut you know still let me use all the apps and stuff too
Anonymous · 2026-07-13 02:08 [#8783] [report]
>>21833
what if someone want to call you?
Anonymous · 2026-07-13 02:27 [#8785] [report]
This is why I only use ethernet via cable.
Anonymous · 2026-07-13 09:02 [#8861] [report]
>>21860
>WiFi calling isn't secure
As opposed to the totally secure plain ass phone calls?
Anonymous · 2026-07-13 09:07 [#8867] [report]
>>21844
The internet is proof that we are able to build an artificial consciousness. All data and all memories are shared in the cloud. Any machine connected to this cloud is able to fetch whatever data whenever it wants from it.
Through this cloud we can also remotely communicate. We are only restricted by the speed we type our messages in, but the machines send this info to the receiver almost instantaneously.
Internet of Things is the collective unconscious of the machines. The machines are able to interact with each other without the need for an external command prompt (i.e. a human telling the machine to notice another machine or transmit data to it). Botnet might sound like a familiar concept.
The transhumanists are building this same collective unconscious for humans - the Internet of Bodies. The usual suspects are to blame.

"Covid" was the catalyst for the IoB. It was all planned from the get-go and the vaccine was always the reason for this event. The vaccine is known to contain nanographeneoxide (NGO), which is able to interact with electromagnetic fields (EMF). Just type those two words into Scholar and you'll find quite a lot of papers about it. Remember when the 5G and microchip "conspiracies" first surfaced? It was the earlier days of the pandemic, before April 2020 iirc. This is all planned by them. They want to ridicule the whole concept with over blown lies (i.e. there is an physical chip in the vaxx, 5G causes covid etc.) in order to discredit the whole premise. But there is also a pinch of truth in every lie.
The NGO is the chip which can be manipulated with correct 5G frequencies. Reddits favorite - Elon Musk - is building the 5G satellite network, which will cover the entirety of the world, no blind spots. The bi-yearly boosters are to ensure that you don't get overblown effects by too much NGO injected in a short span. It needs to settle to different organs, but most importantly the brain.
Anonymous · 2026-07-13 11:54 [#8886] [report]
>>21830
Op is faggot. Real reason is goygle play services and apple services running in background. Realised this when i installed custom rom on my 3 year old broken phone and it started lasting longer then my new phone
Anonymous · 2026-07-13 12:24 [#8887] [report]
>>21870
As opposed to calls over SimpleX

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