If this were a jaynigger thread you would see apple shilling and blatant bots and samefagging
Also the point of the thread was to list *actual* issues linux desktop has at a foundational level, not to cry about common issues
Ex. instead of calling linux dogshit because your printer doesn't work maybe you should instead address WHY your printer doesn't work and HOW it happened

> windows 10 is full of telemetry

You can disable it though. https://rentry.org/concisewin10

>You can disable it though. https://rentry.org/concisewin10

refer to https://cy-x.net/articles?id=11
>>People say they've "debloated their Windows" all the time, but have any of them actually checked to see if that was true?
https://cy-x.net/uploads/cc47775312d81865.webm

I've read somewhere that if you block windows telemetry on the network level, windows is going to fallback to some important aws server that if you block, half of the internet stops working
is this true?

A lot of the trans people in open source are useful idiots...
not some evil cabal.
The bad guys are corporate employees running the show and telling those trans people what to do.
They are shunned everywhere they go and those corporate weasels know this and they embrace them so that they become loyal to them.
Its like an adopted dog that would die for his owner.

yeah i don't get the hate either

like

"those ppl feel bad about themselves so they harm linux"

...

Lowkey, I had 90% at 08:00 on my linux machine, as of now it's 47%.
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Linux desktop is not a serious endeavor and that's displayed by how despite those foundational issues listed above being well known, no one has attempted to address them, instead OSS programmers just throw more stuff on top of the horrible base.

I have also been thinking about this and I have decided that the only way to make Linux desktop work is to redesign and rewrite major parts of the system but doing that would also make it incompatible with existing Linux distributions.

Although in the end it may be a useless effort anyway! After all, how many users could it possibly gain? First of all they would have to be dissatisfied with both Linux and Windows, which I feel is already quite a requirement because on the surface it appears that the definitive majority of non-normie users are fine with either one.

name one reason why win 10 telemetry is bad without implying that you're a pedophile

its not a big deal now but one day windows will automatically report you the authorities for saying nigger or something

> name one reason why win 10 telemetry is bad

Telemetry carries a risk of creating dangerous precedents. Nothing is ever done in big batches, but in small compromises which snowball over time.

People generally wouldn’t give a stranger their house/car keys, and they’d most definitely find it incredibly uncomfortable to have their entire city know about their fetishes.

Yet, they’d readily share valuable information with data brokers, because they've grown numb due to convenience and manipulative practices. Never forget that we're at the epitome of information warfare.

You’re free to prioritize your own desired level of convenience. That’s the key element of a fulfilling life, after all. Never forget that consequences are inevitable and our current lifestyles are increasingly unsustainable, and signs of a descent into a new age of fascism are unmistakable.

This is much deeper than "having something to hide". This is often a tactic used to control the narrative, as it is meant to simplify and desensitize something to make it mono-dimensional.

This has evolved in a slightly longer post, but I'm writing it with the best intentions in mind.

Close your eyes, clear your mind, detach yourself from the equation and try to imagine the situation from a higher point in your life. Make this a habit.

nothing ever happens retard
the world is the same as 20 years ago just with a different coat of paint
kikes knowing what you do in your free time won't cause some kind of revolution
you watched too many movies.

besides
don't you have your guns to save you from the overreaching government? kek

> Download preinstalled game
> Launch with lutris (the only way to use proton without tinkering like a mentally ill fag)
> Black screen for 5 minutes on startup
> No audio
> Laggy AF
> Broken functionality
Welp, I guess i should've shilled out those $80 for a permission to play the game only while online and spied on like a good linux user :-/

> the world is the same as 20 years ago just with a different coat of paint
Your imprudence and choice of words makes me question whether you have lived half that long. The contrary would be an unsettling amount of asininity.

> don't you have your guns to save you from the overreaching government?
By which measure do you go by to think that everyone you meet on the internet is American?

I beg your pardon, but maybe you can find a forum more befitting of your maturity. Or you can try to actually say something valuable, with actual thought put into it.

>you said the heckin' problematic word!
>therefore you must be underage!
>you must talk like a bot on the internet!

kek rope looney trooney

why wouldn't i assume you're american? screaming "fascism" is pretty on brand with obsessed american transvestite pedophiles...

>yeah i don't get the hate either

>like

>"those ppl feel bad about themselves so they harm linux"

>...

trannies are a cancer. They're a bunch of self-absorbed, mentally ill freaks who think the world revolves around their delusions of gender identity. Newsflash: it doesn't.

First off, they're always whining about inclusivity and diversity, trying to force their perverted ideology down our throats. While dismissing anyone they don't like as literally hitler(You deserve to be murdered in front of your entire family, teehee). They demand special treatment, like gender-neutral pronouns, as if that's anyone's problem. It's a distraction from actual coding and progress. And on top of that, it has been proven time and time again that if you give them this one inch, they ALWAYS take a mile(hijack the project) with 100% success rate.

Second, most troons are complete retards when it comes to tech. They can't even write a hello world to save their pathetic lives. But they have the audacity to contribute to projects, often with half-baked, poorly thought-out ideas that slow down development. It's like letting a toddler play with sharp objects.

Third, their fragile egos can't handle criticism. If you dare point out flaws in their code or suggest improvements, they'll cry muh transphobia and try to get you banned from projects. They're toxic as hell and poison the community with their bullshit drama and hypersensitivity.

Fourth, they often have a superior attitude, acting as if their """"struggle"""" gives them some moral high ground. In reality, they're just attention-seekers and narcissists.

But I'm preaching to the choir here anyway, as anyone who actually had to go through the torment that is working with those demented faggots knows this well, and if you think it's not THAT bad then you're either an obtuse double-digit-IQ ape (possibly a tranny in denial yourself) or you're just plain trolling.

For any troons reading this: please present us with a project that got troonified(trans. became """inclusive""") and then got objectively better rather than much, much worse. (please note the emphasis on objectivity)

Oh and TTD btw

You don't need to use some Tranny scripts to disable spyware in windows 10
Literally just block connections to microsoft via a firewall

There's not a single good DE


KDE and GNOME are bloated, buggy and unstable


Xfce is stuck in the 90's


Anything other than those 3 is irrelevant and unsupported

here's your linux bro:


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That's wonderful news
I hope they do leave, that would be a huge step forward for NixOS. No more of these disgusting freaks destroying the project with their inane shit

People like them shouldn't even be allowed to exist, let alone contribute to open source projects. It's a travesty that they've been allowed this far.

I've never used NixOS only because of its disgusting tranny infested community. If those niggers leave, maybe I'll give it a try

What's your beef with trans people? Ever had a tranny in your bed or something?
I'm genuinely curious, as your vitriol is unmatched. I've seen some salty comments, but you take the cake.
I'd like to point out that NixOS is a Linux distro, not a social club. It's about the OS, not the people. But I suppose you'd rather have it be a club, where only the """right""" people are allowed in, right?
Also, I'll have you know that the """tranny infestation""" you speak of consists of a few people out of hundreds of contributors. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
If you ever do try NixOS, don't come crying to us when you realize it's too dificult to use for a tranny obsessed cretin like you, since the whole point is to have reproducible builds, something you wouldn't know anything about lmao

guix system doesn't have such problems as it's run by straight white men

Yeah i'll be trying out the guix distro soon, though i'll need the non-guix channel because i need certain troonware

Guix has no software though

I don't see any free software missing from the guix repo THOUGH

>>783
Alpine Linux is a server OS, not a laptop OS.

>>1156
wtf just compile from sauce

>>936
yes

>>779
i triedinstalling void and it wouldn't work on my fucking intel only laptop and intel is the #1 hardware for open sores. this stupid fucking bullshit is so fucking crazy it doesn't work on 8 year old intel hardware

once again only the bullshit just works

I think we just need to appropriate and invade (just like troons did) small oss projects, like NetBSD, which hasn't been totally destroyed by them

OpenBSD supremacy.
Linux has many big issues that make me angry.

>>2479
>Alpine Linux is a server OS, not a laptop OS.
It works fine as a laptop OS.

>>10403
Basilisk is not available for OpenBSD therefore it's rubbish

>awful software distribution, especially for proprietary
having a list of official packages directly from the distros and if there is anything you want yourself you can just flatpak , download the files and compile it yourself if not made for your distro. I don't see how this is worse than hunting and discovering .exe's to download for windows seems like you a problem there.
>corpo tranimals running every project, making it subject to die overnight out of nowhere(just like the devs)
there is no corpo bloat in my pc are you using ubuntu
>insane defaults everywhere, often not following any standards at all
it's because you're using shit , try using suckless software if you can wrap your head anything more than GUI point and click software
>the "customization" that's often advertised is massively exaggerated, instead of having 100 different choices for each part of the system, realistically you get like 2-5 at most with even less being of high quality, which is even debatable
Who is advertising this.. I can change any part of my system at will? I don't like my i3 wm bar at the top of the screen? I can change it to anything even program my own and use that instead.. make it however I want to look

Your thread as a whole: I've used ubuntu for years , I don't know what I'm doing , I can't make anything of my own , I love my propriety software , i was better calling home on microsoft

>>10404
>its a server os
>alpine works fine on my laptop

Any distro can be used as a server.. most server distros can be used normally , Think to yourself what the fuck is a server distro and what makes it different. I can install arch with no display manager , no wm or de and run the server simply based on terminal and it'll make a far cleaner and efficient server versus any " server distro "

>>10414
Alpine is just Arch with muslc, a better init/configuration system, and a release model that doesn't require constant maintenance.

Linux is bad because:
1)The kernel is bad (composed of 40% firmware binaries)
2)The kernel is bad (the devteam nearly never throws away old code)
3)The kernel is bad (inconsistent code quality, style(7) is hardly ever applied)
4)The kernel is bad (takes hours of waiting to just git clone and build a tiny executable)
5)The kernel is bad (constant CVES remediated by OpenBSD plagarism)
6)The kernel is bad(linus known for accepting obfuscated code)
7)The kernel is bad(linus accepts non-free drivers)
8)The kernel is bad(initially a sys-V UNIX freeware clone, now has no identity/goal)
9)The kernel is bad(500 syscalls are VERY excessive for a system with file-heavy I/O)
10)The kernel is bad(support for awful architectures like x86 and POWERPC)
11)The kernel is bad(grows massively, even Linus claimed it was 'bloated' in c.2005)
12)The kernel is bad(dynamically loads modules instead of text-based configuration)
13)The kernel is bad(The allocator often overcommits and has NUMA locality issues)
14)The kernel is bad(The scheduler is unpredictable, over-configurable heuristic soup)
15)The kernel is bad (Poorly-implemented concurrency)
16)The kernel is bad(Supports inexcusably terrible hardware like modern GPUs & NVMe)
17)The kernel is bad(Has Rust, a lang with poor backwards compatibility & performance)

...This isnt even to speak of DEs, GNU, Poetteringware, xwindows, sys-V init, XDG-complaince, balkanisation, awful package naming and so on and so forth

Slackware has given me no problem lately on a test laptop. sboinstall just works. I get what I need only. If only GoboLinux based off of slack..

just a bunch of morons that know nothing about anything

Matthew 6:21

>actual problems with linux
the learning curve + using distros other than debian (and close derivatives)
that's it.
i enjoy my lightning fast and stable gtk2 only desktop.
of course if you are still in your gaming, java+wasm enabled bloated corporate browser, shiny new software phase than you have much to learn.
i would stop playing with electric toys before id, age verification comes around if i were you, at least just one computer you have should be tor only, lightweight, encrypted, anonymous, etc.
i enjoy making things work on linux more than watching 5 minute ads on jewtube and having microdicks advertisement telemetry 8gb spyware idle with ai screenshotting my desktop.
user-friendly distros are a meme, bleeding edge/rolling muh updoots is a meme.
i understand the corporate defective design of modern linux, you can go back in some cases 10+ years with debian repos.
if you want an OS recommendation: devuan (its 99% debian)
>t. less than a year of real linux experience

you can only cure distrohopping when your computer is truly yours.

Linux's big weakness for me that I've seen is that it puts too much power in the hands of too few people. This wasn't so bad a few years ago before every project decided to grow a CoC and slap everyone with it, but in a post-CoC world the entire Linux development hierarchy is very similar to a collection of third world dictators. Each one trying to play showmanship with one another while they play a notoriously tenuous game of "I'm not touching you" with their userbase. Each time unilaterally deciding to remove or change features, much to the unpopular protest of the users, which get responded with "So? I'm not changing it. You won't change it. Stop complaining, or I'll ban you, CoC reasons, this is harassment, etc."

This has also resulted in a culture of favoritism and back-scratching, much like third world dictatorships which operate on favors and bribes. Take this exchange, for example, two developers working on a piece of software made for other developers. The play being to not argue a technical merit but to instead remind the developer about who took his side during the Main-Master Git renaming debacle that happened several years ago. The debacle that resulted in the mass permabanning of hundreds of users from multiple projects and breaking hundreds of projects more.

Illustrating that, again, technical merit takes a backseat to backroom dealings, and politics of projects is about favor collecting over making projects of technical merit. You scratch my CoC and I scratch yours, as it were.

>>799 what Linux OS is the best though? Asking because I want to switch

>>18172
Just use whatever honestly. Debian has been fine by me and currently I use Arch (btw). I think the reason I switched was because I intended to tinker with the system, but nowadays never do.
That being said: I also do not care about online drama at all and neither do I belong in the top 1% of "hackers", so what do I care? I mostly just play games using Steam and dev a little.

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most linux issues are just the user being too dumb to read a manual or piece together a solution from posts online. anyway i tried Gentoo recently and never going back

>>10403
can it vidya game though

Install gentoo