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I decided to just put it on just out of curiosity. Lo and behold, that is all it really has to offer. Showcasing cool-looking websites that are not connected to AI or corporations is a good move, but once you go past that these are simple novelties. Something you would waste a few minutes on at most, go "Huh, neat" and then return to whatever centralized platform has you by the balls. What none of these people seem to understand is that no matter how widespread your webring is or how many inane ramblings you put on a personal blog, it's not going to compete with any mainstream place in terms of content. Even if that were the case, there are a seemingly endless amount of older legacy blogs and personal websites not connected to Neocities, with heaps more articles to read and media to parse. The most viewed websites on Neocities are also very telling, in that they focus on things like OC dumps and pictures of toys over anything with significant value. You'll have someone advertise their blog on the home page and it's just a few articles, all of which are on par with Facebook boomer posts. Don't even get me started on the mobile-friendly displays and ridiculous amounts of negative space. There's no excuse, I don't care what template you chose it's your fault for having a whole ass website and wasting real estate purely because it looks pretty. Anyways I could forgive everything I've mentioned if it weren't for the fact that most of these "indie" websites are owned and managed by self-proclaimed autistic tranny furry dykes, which to me is insulting because I've masked some high-functioning autism all my life precisely because I don't want to have to use mental illness as replacement for a personality. It comes across even more cynical than a faceless, nameless entity full of AI slop at that point.

And did you know who made the video? Yeah, a supporter of that lame called Melon, which thinks that "retro-web" (or how he calls, "web revival") is just about overloading visitors' browsers with a bunch of javascripts of his donut-shaped character flying all over the place and with YouTube videos in the background instead of embedding a fucking MP3, and closing his websites each Monday cuz "hehe it's funny1!!1".

This whole movement and the name "web revival" seems stupid to me. What are they reviving? Something that has existed for years? Or since the WWW started? Why don't just call it "retro-web" instead of this another terminology? Also, something that makes me laugh is that 90% of what is in Neocities is just an index.html with links to their accounts on social media or about the person behind the site and nothing else in content. Great, so that's the "web revival" then? Wow.

Want to experience the real "web revival"? Then make something similar to this http://frag-net.com/

I saw this video a few days ago, and I have similar sentiments to it.
The showcase of websites made by real people is great, but it focuses more on the aesthetics more than the content of websites. There's plenty of interesting sites to find through webrings, but keep in mind with Sturgeon's law that means you'll have to search around for a while to find good content. Most sites I discover has nice designs and aesthetics, but seldom has worthwhile content for me to consider them a revival of anything.

I also wouldn't call it a revival for similar reasons as >>10307 . The retro-web, indie web, or whatever you wish to call it has always been around. It's mainly been getting attention with how toxic mainstream sites have become because it's an alternative that isn't suffocating with slop. However, that doesn't excuse using bloated JavaScript or dated site designs, a side-effect from focusing on aesthetic over content.

>>10308
>However, that doesn't excuse using bloated JavaScript
I wouldn't like to visit something with a bunch of crap moving on my screen and making my browser to suffer in the process (wasn't these people also hating how bloated is the modern web nowadays? how ironic). And also replicating that ugly Geocities-like design that people always like to romantize from the old web.

And while yeah, there's some few good websites on Neocities and related places, I stopped visiting Neo since 2024 and all those similar places because I was starting feeling frustated of not finding something at least interesting and just seeing the same crap as always.

>>10308
>The showcase of websites made by real people is great, but it focuses more on the aesthetics more than the content of websites.
made by real people, but not for long i guess :(
once these indie websites become norm it wouldn't be long before AI activity and algos get used and spammed everywhere on the site.
that being said, i highly doubt that since the established platforms are too big to fail or fall off. :(
sheep will follow whoever feeds them the most

>which thinks that "retro-web" (or how he calls, "web revival") is just about overloading visitors' browsers with a bunch of javascripts of his donut-shaped character flying all over the place and with YouTube videos in the background instead of embedding a fucking MP3

This is what I call retro web rot , I try to keep javascript to minimal or none at all with my websites. It's just bloat in my opinion and if I actually have some information to offer to people online I won't use it , if my website is just a useless shit hole then I would be more inclined to add a bunch of bloat and rot aesthetics.
More JS & Rot = less to offer
Basic HTML/CSS = Cares more about the information on the site

>>10305
>no matter how widespread your webring is or how many inane ramblings you put on a personal blog, it's not going to compete with any mainstream place in terms of content
When has that ever been the point? Presumably most who prefer personal websites and blogs, or even books, have the opinion that quality matters more than quantity.
>Even if that were the case, there are a seemingly endless amount of older legacy blogs and personal websites not connected to Neocities, with heaps more articles to read and media to parse
I suppose this argument would make sense if all articles and media were the same, but they obviously aren't due to the existence of context and subjects so I don't understand the reasoning behind this statement. Would writing new books be pointless due to a seemingly endless amount of older books existing?
>The most viewed websites on Neocities are also very telling, in that they focus on things like OC dumps and pictures of toys over anything with significant value
That's an issue with most webzones since forever, though I am curious what you would think would be worthy of being called "significant value" content to be presented on a personal website.
>I could forgive everything I've mentioned if it weren't for the fact that most of these "indie" websites are owned and managed by self-proclaimed autistic tranny furry dykes, which to me is insulting because I've masked some high-functioning autism all my life precisely because I don't want to have to use mental illness as replacement for a personality.
Fair enough, however this comes off more as an excuse to nonetheless not express any form of personality and/or create anything because you think it would be viewed as "autistic".

aesthetics is content, yall dont see that, thats why you fucking old fag moids look like balding ogres, fucking retards!.

>>10340
dude what

neocities has always been fucking shit lol it actively fosters boring websites
- has to pay for file types and a custom domain
- no way of making anything dynamic
- html and css only (not sure if javascript is supported so someone please correct me on that)

>>18850
> - has to pay for file types and a custom domain
I know you grew up with social media where anyone can make a shitty "profile" for free, but hosting a website and buying a domain usually costs money, and Neocities offers some basic hosting and a subdomain for free, which for free is good enough already. Beggars can't be choosers.
> - no way of making anything dynamic
If you mean server-side scripting, the "point" of Neocities isn't being a catch-all VPS or to host your jeet web apps, it's for static HTML websites.
> - html and css only (not sure if javascript is supported so someone please correct me on that)
No, unfortunately. They do allow JewScript, but fortunately, Neocities sites generally stay away from overly bloated JewScript or reliance on it without being technically forced.

>>18859
some free hosters can just give you subdomains with cleaner urls so i don't see what your point is on that

>>18866
>some free hosters can just give you subdomains with cleaner urls
Such as?