>>24845
Wine has a shitty little DOS emulator, called (funnily enough) WineVDM.
Windows did too for non-x86 platforms (they licensed it from Insignia), but it was never ported to x86 (besides the obvious reason, MS weren't licensed to do so), let alone AMD64 (same reason).
So in order to support the ~0 Win16 apps still in common use, they would have had to write, test and debug their own DOS emulator. For equally-obvious reasons, they didn't.
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Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 05:40:14
>>24851
I see you are using LLM to sound smart, because it makes the same mistake.
wine does not emulate 16-bit code nor dos. it creates 16-bit segments which is still allowed in 64-bit mode, only v8086 mode is absent.
I see you are using LLM to sound smart, because it makes the same mistake.
wine does not emulate 16-bit code nor dos. it creates 16-bit segments which is still allowed in 64-bit mode, only v8086 mode is absent.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 05:54:19
>>24655
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_my1_xyPM0
vibecode triumph.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_my1_xyPM0
vibecode triumph.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 06:37:30
>>24845
Wine, despise it's name, actually emulate a lot of Windows functions.
Wine, despise it's name, actually emulate a lot of Windows functions.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 06:39:49
>>24854
yep. it emulates API but not CPU, which its name cheekily refers to.
yep. it emulates API but not CPU, which its name cheekily refers to.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 09:15:53
>>24694
They need to hurry the fuck up before the laws change.
They need to hurry the fuck up before the laws change.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 09:22:16
>>24855
>>24854
>>24845
Huh. Apparently it's a Linux kernel feature (it's off by default and you have to enable it.)
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36664
>>24854
>>24845
Huh. Apparently it's a Linux kernel feature (it's off by default and you have to enable it.)
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36664
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 09:31:26
>>24652
Windows can do everything but it is annoying to use. If you get locked into one OS you're not really using a computer.
Windows can do everything but it is annoying to use. If you get locked into one OS you're not really using a computer.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 12:07:42
>>24852
As you freetard shitheads have never stopped bleating: 16-bit Windows (and Windows 9x, depending on your POV) weren't really operating systems, requiring DOS to function.
Also you freetard shitheads when it suits your narrative and you 180 like a feminist on "my body my choice" when it's the vaxx: 16-bit Windows code doesn't need DOS emulation.
So which is it? Were you knowingly lying then, or are you knowingly lying now? Those are the only two options.
As you freetard shitheads have never stopped bleating: 16-bit Windows (and Windows 9x, depending on your POV) weren't really operating systems, requiring DOS to function.
Also you freetard shitheads when it suits your narrative and you 180 like a feminist on "my body my choice" when it's the vaxx: 16-bit Windows code doesn't need DOS emulation.
So which is it? Were you knowingly lying then, or are you knowingly lying now? Those are the only two options.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 12:26:59
>>24847
NTVDM was always shit, and anything significant needed a DOS emulator anyway.
>>24852
16 bit segments aren't executable code. X86_64 requires a hard reset of the CPU before you can go back and run 16 or 32 bit code.
NTVDM was always shit, and anything significant needed a DOS emulator anyway.
>>24852
16 bit segments aren't executable code. X86_64 requires a hard reset of the CPU before you can go back and run 16 or 32 bit code.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 13:08:38
>>24859
>>24860
you need to shut the fuck up, educate yourself, and fact check before spouting bullshit. I'm not spoonfeeding you, idiot.
>>24860
you need to shut the fuck up, educate yourself, and fact check before spouting bullshit. I'm not spoonfeeding you, idiot.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 13:11:40
>>24861
>yes im a liar and a retard
Why didn't you just say this? It's shorter and means the same thing.
>yes im a liar and a retard
Why didn't you just say this? It's shorter and means the same thing.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 15:34:33
>>24860
NTVDM is not shit, it works very well. Its perfectly capable at running wide variety of development tools and other business softwares. It does not work well with games because that it not its purpose.
NTVDM is not shit, it works very well. Its perfectly capable at running wide variety of development tools and other business softwares. It does not work well with games because that it not its purpose.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 16:05:47
>>24863
Of course it's not its purpose - Win16 wasn't any sort of gaming platform, apart from a pretty wide selection of clients of CARDS.DLL.
Every "real" game that ran on Win16 actually required Win32s, for obvious reasons.
Of course it's not its purpose - Win16 wasn't any sort of gaming platform, apart from a pretty wide selection of clients of CARDS.DLL.
Every "real" game that ran on Win16 actually required Win32s, for obvious reasons.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 16:29:31
>>24860
>X86_64 requires a hard reset of the CPU before you can go back and run 16 or 32 bit code.
Um, no. You can drop back from long mode back to 32-bit protected mode and then subsequently back to real or unreal mode.
>X86_64 requires a hard reset of the CPU before you can go back and run 16 or 32 bit code.
Um, no. You can drop back from long mode back to 32-bit protected mode and then subsequently back to real or unreal mode.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 16:31:19
>>24865
Just what I always wanted - a 90% performance hit every time a 16-bit process is scheduled.
This is why virtualization became the choice, even before WOW32 was dropped - it's actually MORE performant than doing this three-shift-down-three-shift-up BS.
Just what I always wanted - a 90% performance hit every time a 16-bit process is scheduled.
This is why virtualization became the choice, even before WOW32 was dropped - it's actually MORE performant than doing this three-shift-down-three-shift-up BS.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 16:40:06
>>24653
Delicious toast and showing hell who's boss.
Delicious toast and showing hell who's boss.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 16:43:15
>>24866
I never claimed it was performant.
Technically the correct way to run 16-bit code nowadays would be to use VMX and set up v86 from inside that domain.
I never claimed it was performant.
Technically the correct way to run 16-bit code nowadays would be to use VMX and set up v86 from inside that domain.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 16:43:24
>>24653
What's the usecase for having a usecase?
What's the usecase for having a usecase?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 16:52:53
>>24651
Why creating a new OS is so hard? Is it the drivers?
Why creating a new OS is so hard? Is it the drivers?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 17:00:52
>>24870
Modern hardware is a nightmarish undocumented-by-design mess.
Modern hardware is a nightmarish undocumented-by-design mess.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 17:09:22
>>24870
reactos isn't a new os, it's a clone of windows, which is even harder to make than a new os
reactos isn't a new os, it's a clone of windows, which is even harder to make than a new os
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 17:21:01
>>24652
Winjeet crashing out
Winjeet crashing out
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-19 20:14:52
>>24651
How well is this against Wine with old windows programs? I wonder how viable this is with a virtual machine for old windows shit.
How well is this against Wine with old windows programs? I wonder how viable this is with a virtual machine for old windows shit.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 00:36:08
imagine still talking about or using reactos when the real windows xp is already open source now
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 02:21:57
>>24651
Will this unironically be a replacement for old windows versions? Is is this specifically XP?
Will this unironically be a replacement for old windows versions? Is is this specifically XP?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 02:43:05
>>24866
>a 90% performance hit every time a 16-bit process
This shit was written for processors that maxed out at 40mhz. The micro controller in my keyboard runs at twice that. None of it cares.
Also you only get the penalty during context switches, I'm sure updating the TLB etc takes *way* more time.
>a 90% performance hit every time a 16-bit process
This shit was written for processors that maxed out at 40mhz. The micro controller in my keyboard runs at twice that. None of it cares.
Also you only get the penalty during context switches, I'm sure updating the TLB etc takes *way* more time.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 04:08:15
>>24874
its' userspace is mostly wine. i wouldn't expect anything to work in reactos that doesn't in wine with the only exception being anything that requires a bespoke driver, since wine can't do windows drivers
its' userspace is mostly wine. i wouldn't expect anything to work in reactos that doesn't in wine with the only exception being anything that requires a bespoke driver, since wine can't do windows drivers
beaver !syR1tx1.Yw · reply · 2026-07-20 05:16:43
>>24687
this works really well outside the West and Japan but in the west it ain't that easy unless your a small fry doing it on occasion
this works really well outside the West and Japan but in the west it ain't that easy unless your a small fry doing it on occasion
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 05:23:46
>>24667
This.
Linux is the way forward. ReactOS can gtfo.
This.
Linux is the way forward. ReactOS can gtfo.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 11:57:41
>>24880
People switch to linux hoping to find something like ReactOS (A Windows clone)
People switch to linux hoping to find something like ReactOS (A Windows clone)
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 12:17:14
>>24874
You may as well just use old windows in a virtual machine.
You may as well just use old windows in a virtual machine.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 12:21:00
>>24651
>windows XP source code leaks
>we basically have to fire everyone who looks at that code so we don't get fucked
and yet if someone just asked claude to poop out a windows xp clone it would definitely be trained on that leaked source code AND (apparently) be legal to use too
make it make sense
>windows XP source code leaks
>we basically have to fire everyone who looks at that code so we don't get fucked
and yet if someone just asked claude to poop out a windows xp clone it would definitely be trained on that leaked source code AND (apparently) be legal to use too
make it make sense
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 12:23:30
>>24883
it's legal to use for big corporations and against people who don't have money, time or an lawyer. sucks to suck. nice try stallfags.
it's legal to use for big corporations and against people who don't have money, time or an lawyer. sucks to suck. nice try stallfags.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 13:03:03
>>24651
Windows 7 with VxKex mogs this so hard and I'm saying this as a Linux user
Windows 7 with VxKex mogs this so hard and I'm saying this as a Linux user
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 15:21:15
>>24881
And after the reality that Linux isn't a Windows clone sets in they either sink and go back to Windows or swim and stop being a fucking corpo dick sucking faggot. It's up to them to choose.
And after the reality that Linux isn't a Windows clone sets in they either sink and go back to Windows or swim and stop being a fucking corpo dick sucking faggot. It's up to them to choose.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 15:32:40
what real hardware can i get to run reactos on
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 15:52:07
>>24887
Garbage bin hardware or virtual machine
Garbage bin hardware or virtual machine
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 16:05:36
>>24859
Wow you sure support the wrong side of almost every argument.
Wow you sure support the wrong side of almost every argument.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 16:06:57
>>24889
>yes im a lying freetard shitstain
Glad we had this convo.
>yes im a lying freetard shitstain
Glad we had this convo.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 16:11:21
>>24754
>scout is Lucas Botkins
>medic is James Rolfe
Huh ok
>scout is Lucas Botkins
>medic is James Rolfe
Huh ok
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 16:52:11
>>24889
Hehe, the cyberstalking trannyjanny thinks anybody cares about its opinions.
How cute.
Hehe, the cyberstalking trannyjanny thinks anybody cares about its opinions.
How cute.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 18:37:45
>>24885
XP with OneCoreAPI mogs both
XP with OneCoreAPI mogs both
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 19:16:07
>ReactOS
no games
no games
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-20 19:18:01
>>24894
>>24682
>>24682
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