>>21125
No
There are products that do kind of what you're describing, mostly from Hogue or Pachmeyer. Hogue makes products that tend to install over grips, and Pachmeyer or maybe someone else used to make partial rubber front/backstrap wraparounds that install by sandwiching the edges under existing grips
Try some other grips, or maybe a Hogue cock sock
As for the serrations idk what to say. A 92 is already exceedingly easy to rack, easier than a CZ's little tiny fingertip gripzone
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Burt !Gummer6chk · reply · 2026-07-11 17:35:55
>>21125
>>21127
>other grips
Pic related, other products have different thicknesses and shapes
>>21127
>other grips
Pic related, other products have different thicknesses and shapes
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 17:44:41
>>21127
I probably just need to practice a less pinch & pull method then. Because the serrations are so sharp/slide rides inside of frame meaning less real estate but also more horizontal pressure on the frame, I'm used to pointer/thumb of off hand on the back of my CZs and pulling hard. Target sights so I dont wanna interact with those at all on the beretta but I'll probably just get more used to racking from the front then. Thanks! Also I wish the spare parts for Berettas werent retard expensive, I want smaller safeties because they're mildly unpleasant to engage upwards w/ the thumb but more importantly they really restrict your clearance for dropping the slide. Might just put standard/brigadier controls on it or since I shoot left handed, leave the oversized safety on the right side or try to mill a mild curve/cutout on the front bottom of the safety that is easier to push against.
I probably just need to practice a less pinch & pull method then. Because the serrations are so sharp/slide rides inside of frame meaning less real estate but also more horizontal pressure on the frame, I'm used to pointer/thumb of off hand on the back of my CZs and pulling hard. Target sights so I dont wanna interact with those at all on the beretta but I'll probably just get more used to racking from the front then. Thanks! Also I wish the spare parts for Berettas werent retard expensive, I want smaller safeties because they're mildly unpleasant to engage upwards w/ the thumb but more importantly they really restrict your clearance for dropping the slide. Might just put standard/brigadier controls on it or since I shoot left handed, leave the oversized safety on the right side or try to mill a mild curve/cutout on the front bottom of the safety that is easier to push against.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 17:45:37
>>21109
Nice slim grips. I was thinking about putting slim bushings on my next build, probably a two tone commander with harrison grips
Nice slim grips. I was thinking about putting slim bushings on my next build, probably a two tone commander with harrison grips
Burt !Gummer6chk · reply · 2026-07-11 17:50:10
>>21129
If you aren't racking by push-pull method look into that. For 92s I almost exclusively use the scallops at the front anyway, I think they feel better and gib more control. You'll figure it out
Anywho the closest thing to the grip product you want are the old M9A3 Hogue rubber wraparounds, but they're gone now and they're not compatible with the safety models. And you couldn't modify them to allow a plastic grip overtop if they were
It looks like there are a LOT of new 92X Performance wraparound offerings since the last time I looked, it used to be only 2. Have a look around and give some different grips a try
If you aren't racking by push-pull method look into that. For 92s I almost exclusively use the scallops at the front anyway, I think they feel better and gib more control. You'll figure it out
Anywho the closest thing to the grip product you want are the old M9A3 Hogue rubber wraparounds, but they're gone now and they're not compatible with the safety models. And you couldn't modify them to allow a plastic grip overtop if they were
It looks like there are a LOT of new 92X Performance wraparound offerings since the last time I looked, it used to be only 2. Have a look around and give some different grips a try
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 17:54:22
>>20977
Just flagged an entire mall, end to end (I had to check prices in both stores).
Just flagged an entire mall, end to end (I had to check prices in both stores).
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 17:56:28
>>21125
Get Hogue’s “wraptor” rubber grip tape and add some to the back strap
Get Hogue’s “wraptor” rubber grip tape and add some to the back strap
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 17:57:51
>>21125
Checkering file or gunsmith
Checkering file or gunsmith
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 17:57:55
>>21083
i don't have one for my new gun, only reason. it was cut for full moon clips and came with them so i wanted to check them out.
>>21112
im finding that out, i'll look for half moons later.
i don't have one for my new gun, only reason. it was cut for full moon clips and came with them so i wanted to check them out.
>>21112
im finding that out, i'll look for half moons later.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 18:15:28
How much do skills and training carry from gun to gun? Obviously manual of arms is different, those need to be practiced separately. But if I only take my carry piece to the range the marksmanship improvements pretty much carry over to my nightstand gun right?
Assuming both are irons or both are optics.
Assuming both are irons or both are optics.
Burt !Gummer6chk · reply · 2026-07-11 18:18:28
>>21136
Fundamentals do but your personal maximum speed and precision won't because differences in ergonomic geometry change how you present, aim and break shots
That said you get familiar with what you own and can be proficient with a wide variety of shapes and sizes, but it's not likely you'll be at your very best with more than one or two specific guns at a time
Fundamentals do but your personal maximum speed and precision won't because differences in ergonomic geometry change how you present, aim and break shots
That said you get familiar with what you own and can be proficient with a wide variety of shapes and sizes, but it's not likely you'll be at your very best with more than one or two specific guns at a time
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 18:20:44
>>21135
Definitely get the tool to load and unload moon clips, otherwise you’ll bend them and it’ll lock up the gun
>>21136
It’s kind of like getting into a different car. You know how to drive.
>optics vs irons
Skills built with optics transfer to irons. You have to be very proficient with irons for the skill to hop over to dots. Things like trigger control and stuff transfer easily but in terms of presentation and control dots are operating on an entirely different level.
Definitely get the tool to load and unload moon clips, otherwise you’ll bend them and it’ll lock up the gun
>>21136
It’s kind of like getting into a different car. You know how to drive.
>optics vs irons
Skills built with optics transfer to irons. You have to be very proficient with irons for the skill to hop over to dots. Things like trigger control and stuff transfer easily but in terms of presentation and control dots are operating on an entirely different level.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 18:30:07
why do people not call them reflex sights anymore smdh
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 18:36:29
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 18:38:44
>>21138
>Definitely get the tool to load and unload moon clips, otherwise you’ll bend them and it’ll lock up the gun
go it, any brand in particular? there is a 60 dollar one on amazon that looked okay
>Definitely get the tool to load and unload moon clips, otherwise you’ll bend them and it’ll lock up the gun
go it, any brand in particular? there is a 60 dollar one on amazon that looked okay
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 18:41:09
>>21141
TKcustom is the big one, they have a screwdriver tool that strips the spent cases out
That was the one I had before I sold it all
TKcustom is the big one, they have a screwdriver tool that strips the spent cases out
That was the one I had before I sold it all
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 18:44:02
>>21142
yup that's the one i was looking at. thanks i'll grab it on my next amazon order.
yup that's the one i was looking at. thanks i'll grab it on my next amazon order.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 19:43:02
1911 knowers, I call upon you because I am indecisive: Alchemy, Wilson, or Ed Brown? I am leaning toward an Alchemy Prime or Quantico based purely on aesthetics.
I honestly find most of Nighthawk's lineup to be kind of ugly, and Les Baer's gaudy Trump gun is stupid enough to put me off them as a whole.
I honestly find most of Nighthawk's lineup to be kind of ugly, and Les Baer's gaudy Trump gun is stupid enough to put me off them as a whole.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 20:07:41
>>21119
>borderline
pantyboy moment
>borderline
pantyboy moment
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 20:08:09
>>21144
no knowledge of ACW or Ed Brown. I don't particularly like ACW since their marketing guys suck at shooting and he is utterly repulsive looking and has a dick broom mustache
https://youtu.be/dMdLUC7nbAg
Bill Wilson has never let me down, except a really old .45 Sentinel (3.5 inch) that burns through recoil springs super fast. My Elite Professional is perhaps the best 1911 I own record wise, thousands of rounds without a failure that was not mag related. I got it used for 2.3k. Wilson's optic cut seriously sucks though. Nighthawk's is so much better.
Nighthawk despite me being 4/4 of having to send them back, their CS is very good. My most problematic gun which is a 10mm
>NOTES
>Initial Inspection: continued premature slide lock issues...this is the 4th time back for this same issue
>NOTES
>Replaced slide, barrel, extractor, firing pin stop, slide, and thumb safety - WW
which they did for free and I didn't even buy it from them, I bought it used. I'm fairly certain they also redid all the upgrades that the gun had (serrated rear of the slide, IOS optic cut, DLC finish) which means they did like 2000 dollars worth of work fixing the gun. I think they could have just dimpled the slide stop so the detent has more to bite into but that doesn't fixed the problem but just the symptom, so they rebuilt the upper.
no knowledge of ACW or Ed Brown. I don't particularly like ACW since their marketing guys suck at shooting and he is utterly repulsive looking and has a dick broom mustache
https://youtu.be/dMdLUC7nbAg
Bill Wilson has never let me down, except a really old .45 Sentinel (3.5 inch) that burns through recoil springs super fast. My Elite Professional is perhaps the best 1911 I own record wise, thousands of rounds without a failure that was not mag related. I got it used for 2.3k. Wilson's optic cut seriously sucks though. Nighthawk's is so much better.
Nighthawk despite me being 4/4 of having to send them back, their CS is very good. My most problematic gun which is a 10mm
>NOTES
>Initial Inspection: continued premature slide lock issues...this is the 4th time back for this same issue
>NOTES
>Replaced slide, barrel, extractor, firing pin stop, slide, and thumb safety - WW
which they did for free and I didn't even buy it from them, I bought it used. I'm fairly certain they also redid all the upgrades that the gun had (serrated rear of the slide, IOS optic cut, DLC finish) which means they did like 2000 dollars worth of work fixing the gun. I think they could have just dimpled the slide stop so the detent has more to bite into but that doesn't fixed the problem but just the symptom, so they rebuilt the upper.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 20:12:16
>>21146
also ACW is owned by Cabot who do those stupid art guns that never get shot
also ACW is owned by Cabot who do those stupid art guns that never get shot
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 20:37:46
>>21144
Les Baer or nighthawk. Baer makes the most well fit semi customs for the money. Nighthawk makes the best full customs for the money. Nighthawk is "full custom" by virtue of the one gun one smith thing even though they make the same designs. You will not be unsatisfied with either.
Alchemy is fine. Some people bitch about their quality for the price and exclusivity, the sprint run thing sucks. Ed Brown is really not a good value in current year. Check out Shauland Performance, Valor Precision, Pilot Mountain Arms and KC Customs as well.
FWIW nighthawk puts really ugly grips on their guns and if you just change them out they look a lot more normal.
Les Baer or nighthawk. Baer makes the most well fit semi customs for the money. Nighthawk makes the best full customs for the money. Nighthawk is "full custom" by virtue of the one gun one smith thing even though they make the same designs. You will not be unsatisfied with either.
Alchemy is fine. Some people bitch about their quality for the price and exclusivity, the sprint run thing sucks. Ed Brown is really not a good value in current year. Check out Shauland Performance, Valor Precision, Pilot Mountain Arms and KC Customs as well.
FWIW nighthawk puts really ugly grips on their guns and if you just change them out they look a lot more normal.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 20:40:56
>>21146
>I don't particularly like ACW since their marketing guys suck at shooting and he is utterly repulsive looking and has a dick broom mustache
Oh come on now, Eli is great. Guy has fantastic taste in guns and knows his stuff. He's a good shooter, it's the the pipsqueak redhead guy who sucks.
I like the way ACW does their beavertail blends, trigger guard undercuts and square trigger guards. that's about it. As a builder I take their pistols as inspiration but I would never buy one
>I don't particularly like ACW since their marketing guys suck at shooting and he is utterly repulsive looking and has a dick broom mustache
Oh come on now, Eli is great. Guy has fantastic taste in guns and knows his stuff. He's a good shooter, it's the the pipsqueak redhead guy who sucks.
I like the way ACW does their beavertail blends, trigger guard undercuts and square trigger guards. that's about it. As a builder I take their pistols as inspiration but I would never buy one
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 20:44:55
>>21149
Yeah I was looking for this video where they were shooting a .45 and it was >45 degree muzzle flip. Couldn’t find it, they might have deleted it.
I take it back since I realize now he looks like that because of their magnum PI gun. Still not how I would present a gun. If I was doing marketing you wouldn’t even see my face, it would just be pictures of the gun and then I fly out one of those guys who makes the gun look like it has zero muzzle flip to shoot exploding water melons and soda jugs
Yeah I was looking for this video where they were shooting a .45 and it was >45 degree muzzle flip. Couldn’t find it, they might have deleted it.
I take it back since I realize now he looks like that because of their magnum PI gun. Still not how I would present a gun. If I was doing marketing you wouldn’t even see my face, it would just be pictures of the gun and then I fly out one of those guys who makes the gun look like it has zero muzzle flip to shoot exploding water melons and soda jugs
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 20:45:29
>>21101
This range looks like a riot.
This range looks like a riot.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 20:46:43
>>21148
I’ve read some horror stories of Les Baer on the fourms 1911 forum and 1911 addicts that makes me hesitant to recommend them
They make beautiful guns but their hard fit style with 500 round break in gives me some pause. There is a guy who can’t even get his gun to unlock since it’s fit so tight on 1911 addicts right now to do the 500 round break in
I’ve read some horror stories of Les Baer on the fourms 1911 forum and 1911 addicts that makes me hesitant to recommend them
They make beautiful guns but their hard fit style with 500 round break in gives me some pause. There is a guy who can’t even get his gun to unlock since it’s fit so tight on 1911 addicts right now to do the 500 round break in
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 20:48:01
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:05:11
What should we have Ben make a video of next?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:05:30
>>21152
But that's not really a problem is it? After a few thousand rounds, or a few weeks of racking it and dry fire at home with snap caps it will be perfectly clearanced. I can't imagine being deterred by a gun thats too tight, personally.
They still do hand checkering at baer which I think is neat. I am a 30yo boomer and the old fashioned way les baer's shop does their guns just appeals to me.
Personally I'm at the level where I'd feel comfortable buying a caspian slide and frame and a kart NM barrel and just building the whole thing out with harrison small parts to my tastes. just don't have cash for that
But that's not really a problem is it? After a few thousand rounds, or a few weeks of racking it and dry fire at home with snap caps it will be perfectly clearanced. I can't imagine being deterred by a gun thats too tight, personally.
They still do hand checkering at baer which I think is neat. I am a 30yo boomer and the old fashioned way les baer's shop does their guns just appeals to me.
Personally I'm at the level where I'd feel comfortable buying a caspian slide and frame and a kart NM barrel and just building the whole thing out with harrison small parts to my tastes. just don't have cash for that
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:20:09
>>21149
>it's the the pipsqueak redhead guy who sucks.
1911syndicate has the eyes of an actual psycho killer. Guy creeps me the fuck out.
Eli is tolerable when he's talking strictly about guns, but you can tell he's the sort of autist whose IQ drops to rock-bottom when it comes to anything other than his special interest. He also affects that goofy ass southern accent. Nails on a chalkboard to me.
>it's the the pipsqueak redhead guy who sucks.
1911syndicate has the eyes of an actual psycho killer. Guy creeps me the fuck out.
Eli is tolerable when he's talking strictly about guns, but you can tell he's the sort of autist whose IQ drops to rock-bottom when it comes to anything other than his special interest. He also affects that goofy ass southern accent. Nails on a chalkboard to me.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:22:04
>>21155
A tight gun will never be as reliable as a loose gun.
And the accuracy benefits are very minimal.
A tight gun will never be as reliable as a loose gun.
And the accuracy benefits are very minimal.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:26:02
>>21155
https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t21744-newer-les-baer-45-barrel-fit
This and how their “Comanche”/commander people have issues with since they don’t use commander length barrel fit
https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t21744-newer-les-baer-45-barrel-fit
This and how their “Comanche”/commander people have issues with since they don’t use commander length barrel fit
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:26:03
>>21152
>>21155
>>21157
Obsession with slide to frame fit is boomerlore for morons who fingerfuck their guns more than they shoot them. 1911 accuracy lies in barrel to bushing and barrel to slide fit.
>>21155
>>21157
Obsession with slide to frame fit is boomerlore for morons who fingerfuck their guns more than they shoot them. 1911 accuracy lies in barrel to bushing and barrel to slide fit.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:27:04
>>21157
I don’t think there is any proof that loose guns are more reliable
I don’t think there is any proof that loose guns are more reliable
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:27:58
>>21151
That it does. In spite my lack of skill, it's everyone else that's shooting the floor and ceiling.
>>21145
Your groups probably look worse than mine.
That it does. In spite my lack of skill, it's everyone else that's shooting the floor and ceiling.
>>21145
Your groups probably look worse than mine.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:28:04
>>21158
Commander length slide rails*
Commander length slide rails*
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:29:43
The two on the left both hold 8, right one holds 6. The si mags came with the gun or I would have never bought them. I got these magguts to try because I end up never using the si mags even at the range. Now the mags will start seeing use provided they pass the test tomorrow. The test is just shooting with them.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:30:33
>>21160
Guns being built so tight that they need a 500 round break-in period isn't proof?
Guns being built so tight that they need a 500 round break-in period isn't proof?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:30:45
>>21163
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:33:23
>>21164
No, an intentionally hard fit gun where the builder tells you to shoot it to wear in the barrel lugs is not evidence of slide to frame fit influencing reliability. Get your own proof.
Go buy a rattletrap gun or take a stone to a nice gun to make it loose and reliable if you want.
No, an intentionally hard fit gun where the builder tells you to shoot it to wear in the barrel lugs is not evidence of slide to frame fit influencing reliability. Get your own proof.
Go buy a rattletrap gun or take a stone to a nice gun to make it loose and reliable if you want.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:35:41
>>21163
The follower in the middle magazine is FUBAR.
The follower in the middle magazine is FUBAR.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:38:40
>>21154
Argue about grip angles so he can make a video shilling for Glock. If he was based though he'd shill the Lugar grip angle and get everyone to buy Mk1s
Argue about grip angles so he can make a video shilling for Glock. If he was based though he'd shill the Lugar grip angle and get everyone to buy Mk1s
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:38:50
>>21156
Yeah he gets asked questions about cars and knives and travel and get gives like answers an 18 year old might say. It's kind of funny. But ask him about swenson guns or wilson accucomps and he knows the most.
>>21157
Okay so what? Nobody's taking a baer custom to war lol. They're competition/bullseye guns at best, range toys or safe queens at worst. It's well known that hard fit guns get destroyed by sand and humidity, so just don't carry one into war. Same reason you wouldn't drop into mogadishu with a .30 cal P210 or olympic target pistol.
>>21158
Wow that is horrendous actually
Yeah he gets asked questions about cars and knives and travel and get gives like answers an 18 year old might say. It's kind of funny. But ask him about swenson guns or wilson accucomps and he knows the most.
>>21157
Okay so what? Nobody's taking a baer custom to war lol. They're competition/bullseye guns at best, range toys or safe queens at worst. It's well known that hard fit guns get destroyed by sand and humidity, so just don't carry one into war. Same reason you wouldn't drop into mogadishu with a .30 cal P210 or olympic target pistol.
>>21158
Wow that is horrendous actually
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:40:36
>>21166
You know that the break in period is also about slide to frame fit, right?
You know that the break in period is also about slide to frame fit, right?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:40:55
>>21167
It straightened out once I put rounds in it.
It straightened out once I put rounds in it.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:44:14
>>21169
>Okay so what?
The post I replied to seemed to imply that a tight fit gun will be perfectly reliable eventually
>Okay so what?
The post I replied to seemed to imply that a tight fit gun will be perfectly reliable eventually
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:47:45
>>21170
No. Specifically the lower barrel lugs are oversized
No. Specifically the lower barrel lugs are oversized
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:49:20
>>21151
>he thinks snapbin's range is a riot
>he thinks snapbin's range is a riot
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:52:44
>>21173
lmao
lmao
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 21:57:28
>>21163
>>21165
>I'd like OEM 10 rounders for my 43 now 43Xers got served
They won't make them tho.
>Ok I'd like Magguts+2 so I can almost flush fit 8+1
Magguts won't ship them overseas, and won't even answer emails.
>I'd like a kydex holster for my 43+recover+PL-Mini2.
Nah brother, can't find that in here.
>What now ?
Now i'm a sad, sad europeon 43er that's all.
>>21165
>I'd like OEM 10 rounders for my 43 now 43Xers got served
They won't make them tho.
>Ok I'd like Magguts+2 so I can almost flush fit 8+1
Magguts won't ship them overseas, and won't even answer emails.
>I'd like a kydex holster for my 43+recover+PL-Mini2.
Nah brother, can't find that in here.
>What now ?
Now i'm a sad, sad europeon 43er that's all.
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