>Always based on latest Firefox ESR
>All of the good shit from Firefox
>None of the obnoxious telemetry or redesign shit from Mozilla
>No useless AI shovelware "features"
>No VPN promo shit, "experiments", or "recommended" extensions
>Built-in preferences for those who want an even more toned down UI
>Built-in ad-blocking on par with Brave's engine (which is 99.9% compatible with uBlock Origin), but completely optional for those want straight up uBO
>Can still use encrypted media like widevine if you want, for stuff like Netflix and Hulu
>Completely fleshed out vertical tab system
Waterfox has come a long way, and now it officially mogs the shit out of Librewolf, IceCat, Floorp, Zen, Vivaldi, UG Chromium, and Brave (and utter trash that shouldn't even be mentioned, like Edge and Opera).
>inb4 horrifically outdated neocities shittery
Kontos took full control a few years ago and steadily made this the perfect browser.
https://www.waterfox.com/releases/
Holy Fuck. Waterfox Is By Far The Best Browser Now
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Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 09:52:35
imagine using a browser shipped by some rando to do your banking
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 10:16:55
>>19636
Primary developer is a skilled SWE and there have been thousands of contributors to the browser: https://github.com/BrowserWorks/waterfox/graphs/contributors
Primary developer is a skilled SWE and there have been thousands of contributors to the browser: https://github.com/BrowserWorks/waterfox/graphs/contributors
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 10:17:57
>>19635
If anyone cares about privacy then fingerprinting is a real issue. Using something like waterfox is a bad idea. You should instead use firefox and couple it with a user.js file, this will make you less unique since there are definitely more firefox users out there than waterfox users.
If chrome was passable for daily use and had something similar to user.js it'd be even better in that regard. But chrome keeps shitting the bed more and more with each update and google has put chromium into a shittification fasttrack so it's unusable.
If anyone cares about privacy then fingerprinting is a real issue. Using something like waterfox is a bad idea. You should instead use firefox and couple it with a user.js file, this will make you less unique since there are definitely more firefox users out there than waterfox users.
If chrome was passable for daily use and had something similar to user.js it'd be even better in that regard. But chrome keeps shitting the bed more and more with each update and google has put chromium into a shittification fasttrack so it's unusable.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 10:19:13
>>19635
>based on firefox(gecko)
>based on chrome(chromium)
not a real choice
>based on firefox(gecko)
>based on chrome(chromium)
not a real choice
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 10:24:49
>>19639
It doesn't seem like you know what having a choice means. Choosing one of two options is still making a choice. You can choose to use gecko. You can choose to use blink. You can choose to use webkit or presto too.
It doesn't seem like you know what having a choice means. Choosing one of two options is still making a choice. You can choose to use gecko. You can choose to use blink. You can choose to use webkit or presto too.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 10:26:01
>>19638
This is an idiotic argument, and you can easily masquerade as vanilla Firefox.
This is an idiotic argument, and you can easily masquerade as vanilla Firefox.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 10:31:22
>>19635
>Waterfox Is By Far The Best Browser Now
It's not Opera 12 with presto engine, however.
>Waterfox Is By Far The Best Browser Now
It's not Opera 12 with presto engine, however.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 12:30:45
>>19642
this is indeed the best browser, even today
this is indeed the best browser, even today
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 13:43:43
>>19635
Still using Waterfox since 2017 when they changed the UI and I didn't like it.
Still Just Werks for normies (something that Librewolf is incapable of due to it breaking websites)
Still no AI BS or other shit Firefox bundles nowadays which I am only aware of due to seeing people posting about it here on 4chan lmao
>>19636
Lmao I use it for banking and crypto without issues, unironically.
Last time I reset my profile was 2022 by the looks of things, truly Just Werks (tm)
Still using Waterfox since 2017 when they changed the UI and I didn't like it.
Still Just Werks for normies (something that Librewolf is incapable of due to it breaking websites)
Still no AI BS or other shit Firefox bundles nowadays which I am only aware of due to seeing people posting about it here on 4chan lmao
>>19636
Lmao I use it for banking and crypto without issues, unironically.
Last time I reset my profile was 2022 by the looks of things, truly Just Werks (tm)
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 13:51:30
I hated Firefox' performance with yt or videos in general comparing it to chrome based browsers. Is it good now?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 14:13:25
>>19635
used to use waterfox before dev sold it
now ownership changed again - I returned to it on android
on desktop I prefer helium
used to use waterfox before dev sold it
now ownership changed again - I returned to it on android
on desktop I prefer helium
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 14:32:41
>>19635
SnowFox would have been a cuter and cooler name. either way, Helium is better
SnowFox would have been a cuter and cooler name. either way, Helium is better
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 14:40:42
>>19638
Who cares? The days of interesting online browsing are quickly passing us by as governments keep passing more and more invasive legislation such as age verification at the OS level, and ID required to access the internet, etc.
The internet is becoming something you only use to do work, and in that spirit, you want a browser that gets the hell out of your way and lets you do work.
Who cares? The days of interesting online browsing are quickly passing us by as governments keep passing more and more invasive legislation such as age verification at the OS level, and ID required to access the internet, etc.
The internet is becoming something you only use to do work, and in that spirit, you want a browser that gets the hell out of your way and lets you do work.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 14:44:19
>>19648
If you don't know how to use a computer and access the web without age verification then you're in the wrong board.
If you don't know how to use a computer and access the web without age verification then you're in the wrong board.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 14:46:07
>>19649
Retard. You won't be able to access the internet in that way 10 years from now. The internet you're referring to won't even exist.
Retard. You won't be able to access the internet in that way 10 years from now. The internet you're referring to won't even exist.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 14:52:29
>>19650
>You won't be able to access the internet in that way 10 years from now
not if you have a two digit iq you won't
>You won't be able to access the internet in that way 10 years from now
not if you have a two digit iq you won't
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 14:58:09
>>19651
It won't exist. You'll be using an underground alternative, but it won't be the same
It won't exist. You'll be using an underground alternative, but it won't be the same
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 15:06:46
>>19646
>ownership changed again
Back to the original primary developer. He blahg'd about it a bunch:
https://www.waterfox.com/blog/15-years-of-forking/
https://www.waterfox.com/blog/waterfox-its-legacy-and-looking-to-the-future/
>ownership changed again
Back to the original primary developer. He blahg'd about it a bunch:
https://www.waterfox.com/blog/15-years-of-forking/
https://www.waterfox.com/blog/waterfox-its-legacy-and-looking-to-the-future/
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 15:09:07
>>19635
i would try it except the brave blockchain or whatever storing all my bookmarks and pw and preferences and stuff makes me unlikely to leave it. its just too easy to setup a new install and plugin the key words and its good to go. i don't like the ai shovelware, tempting
i would try it except the brave blockchain or whatever storing all my bookmarks and pw and preferences and stuff makes me unlikely to leave it. its just too easy to setup a new install and plugin the key words and its good to go. i don't like the ai shovelware, tempting
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 15:19:17
until you use r3dfox. lot's of good shit. way better than waterfox
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 15:25:48
>>19635
So this is the low level advertising campaign then. Mentions about 'waterfox' has been here and there on /g/.
Just use librewolf, it's not owned by some corporation.
So this is the low level advertising campaign then. Mentions about 'waterfox' has been here and there on /g/.
Just use librewolf, it's not owned by some corporation.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 16:13:29
>>19656
Unlike Librewolf, Waterfox is led by a competent developer. It's not owned by "some corporation" either. It's owned by the person who founded the project (See: https://www.waterfox.com/docs/policies/company-information/).
Unlike Librewolf, Waterfox is led by a competent developer. It's not owned by "some corporation" either. It's owned by the person who founded the project (See: https://www.waterfox.com/docs/policies/company-information/).
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 16:21:21
Just buy a fucking ad and stop doing this shill bullshit.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 17:02:40
at some point years ago waterfox started running like shit and breaking every site so i just installed standard firefox and it just werks ever since.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 18:05:45
>>19656
Been using it since it looked like this
Back then /g/ had never heard of it
Been using it since it looked like this
Back then /g/ had never heard of it
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 18:20:58
>>19658
OP here. Why would I buy an ad? I'm a pleasantly surprised Firefox (on some distros) & IceCat (on other distros) user who tried Waterfox again recently and found it to be far more usable OOTB than both. Plenty of browser threads on the board every week.
>>19659
The years when it was operated by a shitty marketing company were obviously bad, and that's when I last tried it too. The OG developer regained control of the project 3 years ago, and I've been checking the changelogs on and off ever since. Finally gave it a go again last week under Debian, then Fedora, then Android. Sticking with it on most of my machines so long as the direction remains the same.
OP here. Why would I buy an ad? I'm a pleasantly surprised Firefox (on some distros) & IceCat (on other distros) user who tried Waterfox again recently and found it to be far more usable OOTB than both. Plenty of browser threads on the board every week.
>>19659
The years when it was operated by a shitty marketing company were obviously bad, and that's when I last tried it too. The OG developer regained control of the project 3 years ago, and I've been checking the changelogs on and off ever since. Finally gave it a go again last week under Debian, then Fedora, then Android. Sticking with it on most of my machines so long as the direction remains the same.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 18:27:07
>>19642
Jesus, this takes me back. Switching to Chromium was a mistake.
Jesus, this takes me back. Switching to Chromium was a mistake.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 19:13:13
>>19635
So instead of making vague claims and selling me on things LibreWolf already does, what are some actually tangible reasons for why I should switch?
So instead of making vague claims and selling me on things LibreWolf already does, what are some actually tangible reasons for why I should switch?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 19:31:37
>>19663
>vague
Nothing vague about the post at all. Word of the day in your ESL class?
>vague
Nothing vague about the post at all. Word of the day in your ESL class?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 19:35:04
>>19636
banking? what are you a boomer?
banking? what are you a boomer?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 19:36:30
>>19645
>m-m-MUH PERFORMANCE
literally the most negligible thing I have ever seen
>m-m-MUH PERFORMANCE
literally the most negligible thing I have ever seen
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 19:36:53
>>19635
Is it actually maintained now? I used to use it around 2018 and it was always lagging behind regular firefox quite significantly.
Is it actually maintained now? I used to use it around 2018 and it was always lagging behind regular firefox quite significantly.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 19:37:48
>>19636
jeets need to update their script this is done on your phone now
jeets need to update their script this is done on your phone now
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 20:07:26
>>19667
Quite active.
Quite active.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 20:08:50
>>19664
Will you address the question, retard?
Will you address the question, retard?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 20:43:43
>>19635
I don't know if i should use Waterfox or Helium
Just came out of Firefox because it was leaking ram like crazy and Helium is being pretty cool
I don't know if i should use Waterfox or Helium
Just came out of Firefox because it was leaking ram like crazy and Helium is being pretty cool
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 20:45:09
>>19652
dont be silly nobody can cockblock me the id verification is for these useless american gay websites like plebbit, x(videos).com and alike like do you morons not understand how the internet works? dont you have your own site?
dont be silly nobody can cockblock me the id verification is for these useless american gay websites like plebbit, x(videos).com and alike like do you morons not understand how the internet works? dont you have your own site?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 20:59:00
>>19666
If you're blind it's ok, but videos freezing, frames dropping, having to reload etc. on modern PCs ain't normal.
If you're blind it's ok, but videos freezing, frames dropping, having to reload etc. on modern PCs ain't normal.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 21:12:24
>>19637
Nice graph you got there.
Nice graph you got there.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 21:28:51
>>19645
How can you be functional enough to live and breathe and still be so dangerously retarded that you don't see the most obvious thing in the world? Google is fucking gimping Youtube for Firefox users because they are the last ones with a decent adblock. I even use Firefox on my phone and I have to refresh the site like 5 times and restart the browser for it to start playing the video. While every other site with videos plays instantly with that same internet connection. It's probably even possible to get better performance out of Firefox if you spoof your useragent and pretend to be Chrome. It has nothing to do with Firefox not having enough power to play videos, it's Google having too much power.
How can you be functional enough to live and breathe and still be so dangerously retarded that you don't see the most obvious thing in the world? Google is fucking gimping Youtube for Firefox users because they are the last ones with a decent adblock. I even use Firefox on my phone and I have to refresh the site like 5 times and restart the browser for it to start playing the video. While every other site with videos plays instantly with that same internet connection. It's probably even possible to get better performance out of Firefox if you spoof your useragent and pretend to be Chrome. It has nothing to do with Firefox not having enough power to play videos, it's Google having too much power.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 22:19:25
>>19675
Th.. that's literally what I said anon...
Th.. that's literally what I said anon...
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-10 23:29:57
>>19667
I get a new update once a week? Enough that I ceebs restarting the browser to update it lol so weekly?
>>19645
>>19645
Youtube is indeed the laggiest website on Waterfox , but it isn't unusable, and it's the only site that does this. As such I believe this is intentional by YouTube devs
As I said though I browse YouTube probably an hour a day on Waterfox and it isn't unusable, nor do I get laggy videos or something. Just when doing things like scrolling down comments heaps you can feel the engine struggling. I don't really know how Chrome handles this as I never use it for YouTube but I guess better?
I also have 4 add ons installed that modify YouTube behavior so maybe that has something to do with it lol
>>19656
I'm not the OP, but as someone who uses this browser a lot for me and ffamily I do wish they had a bigger userbase as it ensures it will keep getting developed
Ultimately over the next 10 years I hope Ladybird continues to grow into a stable alternative. Would be great to move off both Firefox/Chrome engines that are huge due to all the crap that's been bolted on over the last 25 years or so
I get a new update once a week? Enough that I ceebs restarting the browser to update it lol so weekly?
>>19645
>>19645
Youtube is indeed the laggiest website on Waterfox , but it isn't unusable, and it's the only site that does this. As such I believe this is intentional by YouTube devs
As I said though I browse YouTube probably an hour a day on Waterfox and it isn't unusable, nor do I get laggy videos or something. Just when doing things like scrolling down comments heaps you can feel the engine struggling. I don't really know how Chrome handles this as I never use it for YouTube but I guess better?
I also have 4 add ons installed that modify YouTube behavior so maybe that has something to do with it lol
>>19656
I'm not the OP, but as someone who uses this browser a lot for me and ffamily I do wish they had a bigger userbase as it ensures it will keep getting developed
Ultimately over the next 10 years I hope Ladybird continues to grow into a stable alternative. Would be great to move off both Firefox/Chrome engines that are huge due to all the crap that's been bolted on over the last 25 years or so
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 00:54:25
>>19671
>Just came out of Firefox
just saw this thread, installed Helium. imported everything from FF.
added Bitwarden and imported logins aswell.
Works very smooth, especially youtube opens instantly with 3 game clients running. I love it.
Only thing that i need to get used to is the active /inactive tabs confusing me...trying to fix it with a dark style theme.
>Just came out of Firefox
just saw this thread, installed Helium. imported everything from FF.
added Bitwarden and imported logins aswell.
Works very smooth, especially youtube opens instantly with 3 game clients running. I love it.
Only thing that i need to get used to is the active /inactive tabs confusing me...trying to fix it with a dark style theme.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 01:01:54
>>19645
Get a better computer.
Get a better computer.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 01:24:43
>>19635
>>19636
>>19637
>>19638
>>19639
i already have librewolf though
>>19636
>>19637
>>19638
>>19639
i already have librewolf though
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 01:37:37
>>19665
Underage coded post
Underage coded post
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 01:54:54
>>19660
I avoid knowing about trash.
I avoid knowing about trash.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 02:27:15
>>19657
Elaborate on that, if you would. There's no difference I've found in maining librewolf except I have to unharden some surfaces for sites to work (and google) and the updater works a little differently.
Elaborate on that, if you would. There's no difference I've found in maining librewolf except I have to unharden some surfaces for sites to work (and google) and the updater works a little differently.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-11 03:09:54
>>19635
it's trash
it's trash
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