THE CYBERIX NETWORK

The sophisticated man's creative playground

i really hate it when people shove their choice of browser down my throat

Librewolf deprecated on brew due to signing requirements

LOUNGE · Back to threads · Report thread

Anonymous · original post · 2026-07-24 00:16:28

brew reinstall librewolf
==> Would reinstall 1 cask:
librewolf
Warning: librewolf has been deprecated because it does not pass the macOS Gatekeeper check! It will be disabled on 2026-09-01.


Why do they do this fucking bullshit to us? Apprently it's not enough to pay the Mac OS developer fee anymore and librewolf and the like are no longer kosher, so you have to do some fucking voodoo with the quarantine to use it.

I know, I know

>Mac OS
>Homebrew
>Found yer fuckin problem

But still they have no fucking right to prevent me from using libre software.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 00:18:44

>they have no fucking right to prevent me from using libre software
I bet their terms of service say they do.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 00:19:52

>>25576
>they have no fucking right
Yes they do, you signed a eula and accepted the TOS.
Now shut the fuck up and up your iCloud subscription because you're running out of space.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 00:25:34

>>25576
you bought hardware from the famously walled garden philosophy company and you are saying they need to let you out.
you arent this retarded are you ?

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 00:30:14

>>25579
Microsoft also does it, is PC hardware also walled garden?

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 00:31:47

>>25580
>Microsoft also does it
Compared to apple microsoft is a massive open green field.
Apple went inside the walled garden and built even smaller locked play areas for their retarded userbase to stay locked inside.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 00:32:21

>>25580
does microshit stop you from installing ANY other OS you actual fucking retard

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 00:33:17

>macsissies BTFO

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 00:34:48

>>25580
kill yourself

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 00:38:58

>>25582
They would if things worked the way they want. Never give an inch.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 01:06:44

>>25576
Sir? Why do you even want the best and most private browser, right afer TOR, when you are using it in an unsafe env (MacOS), where every keystroke is logged anyway? And every IP you ever connect to is tied to your AppleID and of course your ISP.

But that aside... fuck, that sucks. Hmm.. in that case I'd just use Zen browser, honestly.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 01:42:00

>>25576
>librewolf
>Mac OS
like water and lard

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 02:04:08

>>25582
Not today, but can you be sure of that tomorrow?

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 02:08:44

>>25582
>does microshit stop you from installing ANY other OS
Apple doesn't either, Asahi Linux exists. The only thing "stopping" you is the lack of driver support.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 02:13:29

>>25586
>Zen browser,
I remember there being a post of someone showing how many connections zen browser makes straight out of the box and If I remember correctly it is more than regular firefox, if you want a private browser just harden firefox with user.js.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 02:16:26

>>25590
and if you want zero connections ootb use icecat

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 02:37:54

>>25576
>he uses brew
lol

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 02:39:57

>>25582
yes enable secure boot and now you can't boot anything that wasn't signed by microsoft issued certificate

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 02:42:25

>>25593
Not entirely true, you can add your own platform key and sign the bootloader yourself as long as the firmware trusts it.
https://wiki.cachyos.org/configuration/secure_boot_setup/

Some firmware might be locked down to prevent this though but that's not Microsoft's fault.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 03:22:33

iTODDLERS BTFO

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 05:09:16

>>25576
it's a dogshit package manager. They don't even keep binaries for programs if you aren't on the latest version of mac and force you to compile everything from source.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 05:19:41

Why do you use homebrew to install software? It's not a robust package manager that's well-maintained like something you'd see on Linux. Just go download your browser directly.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 05:22:44

>>25595
Baste!

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 06:14:51

>>25576
>Apprently it's not enough to pay the Mac OS developer fee anymore and librewolf and the like are no longer kosher,
fake news.
librewolf isn't paying any developer fee and that's why it's not notarized & fails gatekeeper.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 06:23:09

>>25597
homebrew is literally deprecating non-signed official casks because it's well-maintained. make your own repo if you want unsigned casks.
https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/issues/20755

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 06:25:30

>>25581
librewolf being unsigned is an issue for both windows and macos:
https://codeberg.org/librewolf/issues/issues/2664

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 06:41:32

>>25576
librewolf never paid apple's dev program though, they were quite vocal about it on their webpage

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 06:54:52

>>25576
Application signatures should be mandatory. Imagine thinking they shouldn't. How the fuck would you know if your software comes from a verified source or not?

>>25580
>Microsoft also does it
And so does Linux and Android.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 06:56:29

>>25576
>uses proprietary OS
>gets mad that it does proprietary things
i don't get it

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 06:58:48

>>25603
>How the fuck would you know if your software comes from a verified source or not?
yes, how do you?
Is there even one single software that you contacted the developer for to compare signing keys? If not, then how the fuck would you know?

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:00:50

>>25576
It is really hard to comprehense how one free browser could provide privacy and security for users at all. It's inpossible task even for entire systems of free software

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:03:56

>>25606
what?
this post makes no sense

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:04:56

>>25605
>Is there even one single software that you contacted the developer for to compare signing keys?
... is this a joke or are you THAT ignorant

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:05:31

>>25608
answer the question

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:08:46

>>25609
the signing key is published alongside a given release, so you can check whether you install the unmodified application or some crypto miner
it's almost impossible to miss that there has been a number of attacks of late (especially in the shitpile that is npm) where the publisher gets pwned to steal his signing keys and THEN the third party posts some malware because otherwise things like brew, dnf and the like will reject it
it's also common to post keys or checksums on many releases, be it on github or on independent download sites like ffmpeg

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:11:43

>>25610
Everybody can pay those few shekels and let apple sign his app.
The AppStore is full with malware.
Unless you check the keys by actually asking the developer about which one is his, you can't tell.
There are over 34 million people with paid. Apple developer accounts who can sign apps.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:11:54

>>25576
Good riddance.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:14:11

>>25611
>Unless you check the keys by actually asking the developer about which one is his, you can't tell.
what in the world are you even talking about
>There are over 34 million people with paid. Apple developer accounts who can sign apps.
yes, the apps they release! you don't get some magical signing key that lets you sign apps of other people

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:16:11

>>25613
of course you can sign apps of other people, how the fuck would Apple know eho originally wrote it, lol?

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:17:56

>>25611
You're fucking retarded. A signing key is private to each individual and has nothing to do with Apple. The ability to see if a signing key is changed or if 2 versions of the app you've downloaded have totally different signing keys is all you need. You don't need to contact the developer at all, the KEY itself is the developer/distributor.

>>25614
Learn how GPG works.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:18:03

>>25614
anon you might want to have a clue about what you're arguing before making a clown of yourself at the anonymous basket weaving forum

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:19:39

>>25614
>of course you can sign apps of other people, how the fuck would Apple know eho originally wrote it
/g/ - Technology

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:20:33

>>25616
>>25615
so how do you know that the origunal developer signed it and not ranjeet?
Oh, by asking the original developer for it.
Which is what the initial question to you was: Did you ever, in your whole life, verify a signature?

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:21:56

>>25615
>Learn how GPG works.
you mean, the software that tells you to meet in RL to share keys, because you otherwise cant be sure that the signature is from the person you want?

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:23:08

>>25618
Because each key is unique to a given publisher, so ranjeet can only sign applications and updates he himself publishes
I am baffled anyone would assume otherwise. Surely you can intuit that if anyone could sign anything then the whole concept would be unworkable?

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:24:55

>>25620
yes, each signature is unique, but how do you know that the unique signature you see belongs to the person you want?
Because Apple verified that he paid the humiliation fee?

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:26:14

>>25620
>ranjeet can only sign applications and updates he himself publishes
which would include his own librewolf upload.. or anything else...

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:27:48

and people wonder why g is dying

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:36:39

>>25620
Still didnt answer the question:
Did you ever, in your whole life, verify a signature of an app you installed?

You do understand that Apples verification of "yes, this person paid us" isn't enough, right?
Apple isn't visiting the upstream repo to ask the developers if they are ok with this guy publishing their software. No such verification is ever done, YOU would have to do that. If you never did that, then no app signing ever improved your security, it only ever verified that Apple got some shekels.

Report · Quote

Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-24 07:36:52

>>25622
yes, and? the discussion has nothing to do with what an update might contain, only that you can verify the source.

>>25621
i mean yeah, there's always the possibility that the original dev gets disappeared and his key ends up being stolen. i'm willing to bet (((apple verification))) does not include protection from such an event, for the dev or the user.

Report · Quote

Page 1 of 2 Older posts ›

Reply to this thread

Posting requires a durable account or a TripPass. Reading remains available.

Sign in or create or attach a TripPass to post. Browsing is open.