Anonymous · original post · 2026-07-22 05:33:20
What's the point of buying SSDs when they're more expensive and die much faster compared to long-lasting HDDs?
What's the point of buying SSDs when they're more expensive and die much faster…
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Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 05:35:07
They don't even make SATA SSDs anymore. It's all NVMe or HDDs
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 05:35:44
SSD=Faster operating system, next question.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 05:37:38
>>26355
hdd for cam dvr's and cold storage.
ssd for everything else.
hdd for cam dvr's and cold storage.
ssd for everything else.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 05:38:44
At this rate I've had to pivot to compression to save wear and tear.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 05:39:54
>>26359
where are the files located when you compress them before moving them to your drive?>>26359
where are the files located when you compress them before moving them to your drive?>>26359
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 05:46:47
>>26355
>die much faster compared to long-lasting HDDs
Both die at a comparatively proportional rate, respectively, if you go full retard with either drive type.
>>26358
SSDeez nuts.
>die much faster compared to long-lasting HDDs
Both die at a comparatively proportional rate, respectively, if you go full retard with either drive type.
>>26358
SSDeez nuts.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 05:47:20
>>26358
Do they even still make DVR's? Does anyone use them?
Do they even still make DVR's? Does anyone use them?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 05:51:12
>>26362
maybe I meant NVR's. Whichever ones work as a centralized server and storage for your cctv cameras.
maybe I meant NVR's. Whichever ones work as a centralized server and storage for your cctv cameras.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 05:58:14
>>26355
is it Gs as in gravities?
what the fuck do i babby my HDD so much for then
is it Gs as in gravities?
what the fuck do i babby my HDD so much for then
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 06:31:41
>open program on SSD
>Instantly loads
>Open program on HDD
>ssskkkkrrrrrrt
>Instantly loads
>Open program on HDD
>ssskkkkrrrrrrt
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 07:01:12
>>26365
>ssskkkkrrrrrrt
SOVL
>instantly loads
soulless
>ssskkkkrrrrrrt
SOVL
>instantly loads
soulless
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 08:03:50
>SSD
What does this actually stand for?
>can't be a solid state drive, because it has no moving parts and drive means movement
>can't be solid state disk because it doesn't have a disk shaped object
>solid state device is just generic and can refer to RAM as well
It's probably referring to Demons.
What does this actually stand for?
>can't be a solid state drive, because it has no moving parts and drive means movement
>can't be solid state disk because it doesn't have a disk shaped object
>solid state device is just generic and can refer to RAM as well
It's probably referring to Demons.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 09:48:06
>>26355
>die faster
>opposite of reality
You okay OP? Forgot your meds?
>die faster
>opposite of reality
You okay OP? Forgot your meds?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 11:16:45
Does anyone even use HDDs anymore?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 11:38:42
>>26355
define "dies much faster"? Let say HDD survives 1 million years and ssd dies after 2000 years does it matter? Even with heavy swapping ssd's will last life time.
define "dies much faster"? Let say HDD survives 1 million years and ssd dies after 2000 years does it matter? Even with heavy swapping ssd's will last life time.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 11:49:03
>>26366
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZHBJkfU1w0&list=RD0ZHBJkfU1w0&start_radio=1&pp=ygUVaGFsbyAzIGxvYWRpbmcgc2NyZWVuoAcB&ra=m
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZHBJkfU1w0&list=RD0ZHBJkfU1w0&start_radio=1&pp=ygUVaGFsbyAzIGxvYWRpbmcgc2NyZWVuoAcB&ra=m
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 12:26:56
>>26356
this is the main reason to continue buying hdds.
you're physically limited by the number of available pcie lanes for nvme ssds. you can use bifurcation, but that just means lower speeds.
meanwhile, any cpu is capable of handling 4+ sata devices without any issue.
this is the main reason to continue buying hdds.
you're physically limited by the number of available pcie lanes for nvme ssds. you can use bifurcation, but that just means lower speeds.
meanwhile, any cpu is capable of handling 4+ sata devices without any issue.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 12:44:20
>>26372
>you can use bifurcation, but that just means lower speeds.
Weird mindset
>Oh no my theoretical 16GB/s NVMe array might only 8GB/s
>Better stick with 250MB/s HDDs where I might get 2GB/s on the very best of days
>you can use bifurcation, but that just means lower speeds.
Weird mindset
>Oh no my theoretical 16GB/s NVMe array might only 8GB/s
>Better stick with 250MB/s HDDs where I might get 2GB/s on the very best of days
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 12:54:14
>>26356
They still make SATA SSDs, they're just in NGFF.
I bought a bunch of NGFF to SATA adapters so I'll be able to keep using them in my server.
Also, SSDs in general last longer than HDDs and they're faster. HDDs still have better price per TB, so the choice is more application specific.
They still make SATA SSDs, they're just in NGFF.
I bought a bunch of NGFF to SATA adapters so I'll be able to keep using them in my server.
Also, SSDs in general last longer than HDDs and they're faster. HDDs still have better price per TB, so the choice is more application specific.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 17:03:32
>>26355
several times faster.
HDD are outdated technology.
several times faster.
HDD are outdated technology.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 17:18:20
>>26365
Literally never fuckinh happened, only reason you think this is because games nowadays use the fucking. drive as ram because devs can't be assed to do things properly and load everything straight from drive because del ram is already full
Literally never fuckinh happened, only reason you think this is because games nowadays use the fucking. drive as ram because devs can't be assed to do things properly and load everything straight from drive because del ram is already full
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 17:18:28
>>26367
>What does this actually stand for?
Seriously Sexy Demons
>What does this actually stand for?
Seriously Sexy Demons
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 17:19:41
>>26368
hdds literally last decades, and if you just store them without turning them on even centuries. Fucking liar
hdds literally last decades, and if you just store them without turning them on even centuries. Fucking liar
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 17:31:35
>>26375
there are hdds from the 90s still fully operational (I have them), while ssds will experience bit rot no matter what
memory crystals will be the best of both worlds 50 years from now
there are hdds from the 90s still fully operational (I have them), while ssds will experience bit rot no matter what
memory crystals will be the best of both worlds 50 years from now
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 17:32:59
>>26355
that and the fact that QLC is slower than a 7200rpn drive
that and the fact that QLC is slower than a 7200rpn drive
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 18:42:58
>>26369
Yes, for long term storage aka data grave and for backups.
I got picrel 88TB of storage, 70TB of which are HDD and 18TB are NVMe SSD.
I consider this the bare minimum to remain operational until the AI bubble collapses.
Yes, for long term storage aka data grave and for backups.
I got picrel 88TB of storage, 70TB of which are HDD and 18TB are NVMe SSD.
I consider this the bare minimum to remain operational until the AI bubble collapses.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:06:17
>>26374
SSDs are for active use while HDDs are for long term storage and air-gapped data archival, today that's literally what they're made for respectively
any data on an SSD will begin to corrupt within 3-12 months of being powered off, they are not reliable for actual storage at all
this used to be common sense
SSDs are for active use while HDDs are for long term storage and air-gapped data archival, today that's literally what they're made for respectively
any data on an SSD will begin to corrupt within 3-12 months of being powered off, they are not reliable for actual storage at all
this used to be common sense
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:15:47
>>26378
>>26379
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/music-industrys-1990s-hard-drives-like-all-hdds-are-dying/
>>26379
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/music-industrys-1990s-hard-drives-like-all-hdds-are-dying/
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:20:40
>A standard 1TB drive has a rating of 600 TBW, meaning you would have to completely fill and erase the drive almost every day for 16 years to wear it out.
I think I'm good OP and I'm not really hurting over $30 (lmao @ ur life)
I think I'm good OP and I'm not really hurting over $30 (lmao @ ur life)
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:20:48
>>26382
Wrong
Wrong
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:22:30
>>26384
Because write wear is the only thing that can cause an ssd to fail.
Because write wear is the only thing that can cause an ssd to fail.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:25:27
>>26385
retard cope
try leaving even the shittiest hdd and an ssd with the same files in a closet for 5 years and see what happens to the data
every data center uses hdd for archival even today for a reason
retard cope
try leaving even the shittiest hdd and an ssd with the same files in a closet for 5 years and see what happens to the data
every data center uses hdd for archival even today for a reason
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:27:00
>>26386
Anything can fail anon.
That's not in dispute.
The question is do SSDs fail more than HDDs or even just electronics in general
Anything can fail anon.
That's not in dispute.
The question is do SSDs fail more than HDDs or even just electronics in general
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:28:02
>>26387
DCs use HDDs because they are cheap and not because of some sperg use case of buying them to not use them.
DCs use HDDs because they are cheap and not because of some sperg use case of buying them to not use them.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:30:18
>>26389
that's not the only reason
look up bit rot, your low iq is showing
that's not the only reason
look up bit rot, your low iq is showing
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:37:14
>>26390
This retard honestly thinks the main concern with HDDs in a DC is bitrot lmao
The world isn't running cluster level filesystems because they are afraid of bitrot, it's because HDDs fail in the thousands per day.
This retard honestly thinks the main concern with HDDs in a DC is bitrot lmao
The world isn't running cluster level filesystems because they are afraid of bitrot, it's because HDDs fail in the thousands per day.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 19:39:31
>>26387
It is objectively incorrect
It is objectively incorrect
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 22:03:49
>>26382
>any data on an SSD will begin to corrupt within 3-12 months of being powered off
No.
An old, worn out, wear level maxed, full SSD may start corrupting data within months of being powered off.
And if you want archival storage, there are more cost effective options than HDD.
>any data on an SSD will begin to corrupt within 3-12 months of being powered off
No.
An old, worn out, wear level maxed, full SSD may start corrupting data within months of being powered off.
And if you want archival storage, there are more cost effective options than HDD.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 22:47:08
>>26379
Yeah and how often have they been used?
>>26382
I have USB sticks from like 15 years ago that still work good as new and those are essentially SSDs.
Yeah and how often have they been used?
>>26382
I have USB sticks from like 15 years ago that still work good as new and those are essentially SSDs.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-22 23:05:48
>>26375
>HDD are outdated technology
Yeah but they give you the best ratio of density of data per dollar
>HDD are outdated technology
Yeah but they give you the best ratio of density of data per dollar
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-23 00:24:30
>>26371
i'm not clicking that
i'm not clicking that
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-23 01:02:25
>>26355
>when they're more expensive
Priced by IOPS they're much cheaper. Use the right tool for the right job.
>die much faster
They usually have comparable write load rating to HDDs in the same market segment. Also these are warranty numbers in both cases. Your SSD doesn't automatically lock itself after whatever number of lifetime writes they say on the box.
>when they're more expensive
Priced by IOPS they're much cheaper. Use the right tool for the right job.
>die much faster
They usually have comparable write load rating to HDDs in the same market segment. Also these are warranty numbers in both cases. Your SSD doesn't automatically lock itself after whatever number of lifetime writes they say on the box.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-23 01:05:00
>>26356
Why is /g/ filled with so many retard larpers who don’t know that the fuck they’re talking about? Is being into computers cool now? Why are you pretending?
Why is /g/ filled with so many retard larpers who don’t know that the fuck they’re talking about? Is being into computers cool now? Why are you pretending?
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-23 01:05:37
>>26386
Every statistic I've seen says in-warranty mortality for both is usually about 1%, with name brand SSDs having a much lower preponderance of dogs than HDD.
Every statistic I've seen says in-warranty mortality for both is usually about 1%, with name brand SSDs having a much lower preponderance of dogs than HDD.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-23 03:10:23
>>26356
>They don't even make SATA SSDs anymore
there's a billion different sata ssds readily available, and samsung announced an 8 tb 870 evo like... a month ago
why do people keep repeating this lie that makes 0 sense? is it some sort of bait or what
>They don't even make SATA SSDs anymore
there's a billion different sata ssds readily available, and samsung announced an 8 tb 870 evo like... a month ago
why do people keep repeating this lie that makes 0 sense? is it some sort of bait or what
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-23 03:12:06
>>26355
>and die much faster
the average ssd lasts like 2 decades, while modern consumer hdds have a 30+% failure rate after the fifth year of service, quit this retardation already, please.
>and die much faster
the average ssd lasts like 2 decades, while modern consumer hdds have a 30+% failure rate after the fifth year of service, quit this retardation already, please.
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-23 03:13:36
>>26401
>inb4 muuh writes
an high end tlc sata drive easily lasts 1+PB of writes, modern nvmes are even better in this regard, even the shittiest qlc dramless low capacity drives will never reach their write limit under normal conditions
>inb4 muuh writes
an high end tlc sata drive easily lasts 1+PB of writes, modern nvmes are even better in this regard, even the shittiest qlc dramless low capacity drives will never reach their write limit under normal conditions
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-23 03:14:55
>>26400
>samsung announced an 8 tb 870 evo like... a month ago
>samsung announced an 8 tb 870 evo like... a month ago
Anonymous · reply · 2026-07-23 03:17:35
>>26403
yes... of course it's expensive just like every other ssd in this market, your point?
if anything, the fact that they bothered lanching it despite the pricing situation puts into prospective how much sata ssds are still relevant.
yes... of course it's expensive just like every other ssd in this market, your point?
if anything, the fact that they bothered lanching it despite the pricing situation puts into prospective how much sata ssds are still relevant.
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